Thank you, Jeff, for keeping us in the loop. Two events tonight; both worth attending. Great news about voter turnout for the CCD election. Again, a giant THANK YOU to CCWD for being on top of this little known event. As for the LWV, all the women I know who belong to that group ARE partisan, i.e. Democrats/Socialists. Sneaky, deceptive, and indifferent, etc. The only words to describe CC politicians. It's sad to know their behaviors breed the decisiveness they blame on others.
Telephone Town Hall last night and the Open Space hearing too. I attended the Charter Review Forum at the Democrat offices in PA. Very pleasant, informative, and interactive... wish we all could have been in three places at once.
The root of the problem being that one side is better organized than the other. Clallam County Democrats, Indivisible, LWV, and SGGL almost certainly share a number of members (thus, they're virtually indistinguishable from each other). The result is faster, more nimble communication among these groups.
CC Watchdog has been a tremendous help offsetting this communication imbalance, while also negating the local media's gate-keeping and flat-out laziness. I'd like to think there's more that could be done with networking, letter-writing campaigns, etc.
One more thing: Indivisible organizes protests, and SGGL has its fingerprints all over Sequim City Council. Meanwhile, there's an "Invisible Sequim," by which I mean the several hundreds of CCWD readers who could put an oar in the water if they chose to. Think about that.
The word "we" is utilized alot in their propaganda, and inclusion takes on new meaning; those in opposition are cut from the herd and disparaged "peacefully".
All I'm saying is that Clallam County should put out a newsletter to EVERYONE in Clallam County BEFORE any election in time for EVERYONE to request a mail in ballot so that EVERYONE is able to express their choice of who is deciding where our hard earned dollars are spent and on what!
I for one am sick of bureaucrats and tribes (especially Jamestown) deciding what Clallam County's priorities are and how our money is spent.
One area that excel is with involvement that only requires being present, to look for chinks in the opposition's armor or being disruptive to the process of other's productive engagement. Social media affords rallying their troops quickly, especially when the troops do not work in traditional jobs, or work from home, which many conservatives do not participate in. Flex-schedules accomodate being online, and also surfing with one's device when having a latte' at Starbucks or walking around doing nothing while "working", and just shifting screens to check emails, etc. Conservatives tend to be more involved in real jobs that require their physical and mental presence, not checking their phone, responding to non-business multiple times between breaks. Liberals know this, and take full advantage of every opportunity, especially if someone else picks up the slack they create, not being the least bit bothered to check back to see if the slack was ever picked up. Masters of reasons and excuses of why I "had to...", or "need to..." or "because..." avoiding honest work, which is beneath them. Conservatives would mostly like to live their lives in peace, without government overreach, and the accompanying unnecessary taxes that fund non-profits and NGOs, for which they receive nothing of value in return. Liberals cannot be still, constantly fidgeting, like children buzzed up on sugar waiting for their Ritalin fix that never arrives, with FOMO being a driving force in their existence. They speak of peace, yet know nothing of it. Ah-h-h, the beauty of retirement; being able to keep abreast of all the closed door policy-making, smoke and mirrors, and those wiley folks behind the curtain, throwing freshly-laundered taxpayer money into projects and campaigns that enrich their lives, exclusively.
Funny you should mention that. While voting, in the hallway yesterday. A lady (wearing a mask) came up to me. She was quite concerned about the election. She hadnt been informed.... she asked what it was for. I pointed across the hallway at the CCD office and told what it was. First thing she asked. Is it a partisan position? This is one of the ways the liberals slither into all the lower office positions in government. All gov positions are partisan. And all gov election canidates should have to truthfully state their party affiliation.
This is like the article that My Clallam County just came out with, "Public comment period to open for Makah whale hunt." It up-plays that the Gray Whales have rebounded and the tribe wants limited hunting rights for ceremonial and subsistence purposes. What? Where was the down-play? Stressing, hunting and killing an intelligent creature is okay because they have rebounded. Subsistence? The same subsistence needed for Salmon fishing?
Anyways, this is another example of important information presented in a slanted manner.
I'm OK with Makahs hunting a whale each year -- with conditions: Make them follow the traditions of their ancestors. Set aside the .50-caliber rifle, go out in one small canoe armed only with a single harpoon, no life vests, no radio, no GPS, no Coast Guard.
People who want to cling to the Stone Age and a Stone Age belief system shouldn't be cut slack.
Have you seen tribal boats? No average person could ever be able to afford one. They are hugh all aluminum custom made fishing boats stacked with expensive gear.for the gathering event at the time. There is no competition to tribal boats. Forget the canoe, pipe dream!
They want two a year, 25 in 10 years. They claim the high powered rifle is humane for the whale, guess that's a good excuse for not following their oh so important traditions.
Kathy, My Clallam County didn't include that either! What's humane about killing a whale when the meat is not needed? That's inhumane. Thank you for the information.
I despise the PDN because they rarely give both sides of anything. But, I get it for info that's good to know, even when it's not the truth (if that makes sense).
The difference between "rights" and permissions seem to be interchangeable in some minds. If the Makah actually had rights, they would not need to bargain for permission.
How convenient that tonight is the public meeting for Clallam County Review Commission that is for input from the public on possible rule changes. It just happens to be at the Democratic headquarters in PA at 6:00PM. ????
All the elk herd loving Teflon pans that get a subscription to too over populated weekly.
Saving us from ourselves with layers of non-profit jobs playing hide and seek for a grand a week to make sure we come in third place to heal all these bad relationships.
In my relatively long life I have swung from both political sides or the plate. Given the volume of Democrat Party corruption comparatively recently exposed, I am admittedly polarization challenged. With that coming out I do not understand why we are hopelessly stuck in this futile Hatfield's versus McCoy's battle. My Presidential choice for today's best of the best would be RFK, Jr.. Is he a Hatfield or a McCoy ? Does it matter ? Perfection is not human attainable. There are good and bad players in any grouping. Take our WEA, the most powerful union in the State, as example. Good or bad ? I know within them there are many invaluable teachers dedicated to their profession. I also know there are inferior performers among them that are next to impossible to terminate because of the excessive union protection they enjoy. So let's get away from the union and look at the profession and it's charge. The WEA has been in control of our educational system for a long time. We have the most expensive educational system in the world with the worst student educational achievement in the world. Is the WEA a success ? Not by the measures of cost or results. The product of unionization has been the good teachers are no more rewarded than the bad ones. In fact, unions protect and thereby promote poor performance. There is room for both, but the unions have become to powerful to allow both. With our Federal management record I see delegating our education to the States as a great action. Those States with great student results will attract wise parents and conversely those with poor results will not. Federalizing our education gets us the highest costs with the worst results. A good teacher has no need for big brother.
The teachers union activists learned a long time ago that they have influence over moldable minds. They champion every progressive cause in the name of children because it wields power as any organization does when it spies a red herring.
If good dedicated teachers would stand up to their union leadership and patrol their own, they could effect change. Unfortunately the majority of members just pay their dues, put in their time and retire. Kinda like the majority of the country who think cradle to grave sucking off the government teat.
Those good dedicated teachers are attacked by their own and ostracized for having a different view point. Everyone is "inclusive" until you don't agree.
Many have left their unions, aided by the Freedom Foundation, which I've proudly donated to for many years. My ex-wife was a teacher, resigned from the union and kept all her pay and benefits. It's the law.
Private-sector unions, such as the one I'm in, serve an important purpose protecting the safety and wages of workers who actually produce tangible goods and services. In contrast, public-sector unions' first priority is siphoning off dues that go directly into Democrat campaign coffers, almost exclusively. How many of you realized that your tax dollars were two steps removed from the Democrat party's fundraising?
My union does not use my dues for politics. That's a separate paycheck deduction which must have my signature.
He/She who controls the NGOs controls the minds of the mindless masses. Yes, all those "non partisan" groups that communicate with bumper sticker slogans... Sadly the mindless are taking over CC with their sheepish votes for a "D" 'no matter what'. I used to be a 'D'... Party left me right of center swerving wildly to the left promoting the absurd.
They will pack the place with Teflon pans that will lob policy questions. Just like the Fish and Wildlife Commission meetings. They bogart the space and forum. You write things down and they pick the questions they want to answer. If there is a free mike I will be astonished.
All I'm saying is that Clallam County should put out a newsletter to EVERYONE in Clallam County BEFORE any election in time for EVERYONE to request a mail in ballot so that EVERYONE is able to express their choice of who is deciding where our hard earned dollars are spent and on what!
I for one am sick of bureaucrats and tribes (especially Jamestown) deciding what Clallam County's priorities are and how our money is spent.
To the point of Jeff's topic, until proven otherwise, we must assume that public funds very likely are being used to aid and abet this upcoming Chapman, Tharinger & Co. Lying Circus show.
As no timely notice of this event has yet been received by all constituents in LD24, it's apparent the Big Top is meant to be occupied primarily by a fawning, obsequious audience, eager to applaud as these three clowns tumble from a tiny car, the vehicle plastered with the naggy-preachy bumper stickers so favored by their adoring minions.
Their act will feature truth-defying feats of verbal agility, sophistry, and slight-of-hand that will astound the crowd. But have no fear, Chapman, Tharinger & Co. will assure the masses that raising taxes, passing bogus legislation that increases the price of gasoline, impairing law enforcement, impairing the right to self-defense, abetting the homeless industrial complex, making housing less affordable, and perpetuating the mediocre results from our high-priced public school system while bowing to the WEA really is what "putting people first" means.
The crowd will roar its approval, having received a collective pat on the head, and depart for home happy, but no less ignorant.
Thanks Jeff so glad you picked this topic for discussion. I have thought about organization time to time, but in actuality look what organization has produced, only pockets of radical blue. The nation is really what is grassroots, truth, common sense, democracy, the republic, for the people by the people, one nation under God with Liberty and Justice for all…..organization appears to be over rated.
OMG the political grandstanding in tonight's call was Pepto Bismol worthy.
3500 callers, and all the questions absent one sure seemed one-sided. I got in the queue to ask a question and my question was typed into some system. My hunch is the three were able to pick and choose.
And yet they taughted how democratic they are.
It was all about what the government will give to the people who will vote for these three...and what Trump is taking away. No wonder the Ds stay in power.
Chapman was the most manipulative of the three. Wow, he's got it down and knows how to stay in power.
And then the survey they had. Use your keypad, four options, and none affect me nor do I care about. To choose any gives these three the impression they're all important.
I hear a lot of grousing on this topic. I think it's great that various groups are advertising public meetings. This group and others can do the same. The more involved everyone is the better. These public meetings provide an opportunity for people to get involved in the democratic process. Let's run with it.
The League of Woman Voters lost its non-partisan role when debates ceased to be hosted by them and other non-partisan entities. Republicans allowed Trump to break every rule imaginable during debates to the point that their debate rules became non-existent. Serious candidates were humiliated and disrespected. Debates became a public slug fest rather than a serious discussion about policies. Then Trump created the same situation on the major media debates. It wasn't until the Trump - Biden and then Trump-Harris debates that the corporate media finally got a handle on holding a debate with Trump involved that held the line on some sort of civic decorum - finally. Whew! The Republican Party needs to tighten up their debate rules - kick people out of the auditorium if they make personal attacks on people. Don't put up with that crap. Ad hominem attacks are NOT ACCEPTABLE. They just lower the bar and distract from real civic discourse.
Strategically it's important to "read the room." Talking against “inclusion and a racially equitable public school system for all students” makes no sense to me at all. Children are legally required to attend school and if they are home schooled there are still monitoring mechanisms put in place to ensure they are getting an education. ALL children deserve respect and appropriate support as they live and learn in school settings. No one's child should be given more respect than another to succeed. They all have legal rights to a "free, appropriate education." This includes special education services for children with physical and mental disabilities.
As far as the whole transgender thing goes, I was a school administrator for about 30 years and I only dealt directly with the transitioning of a transgender child TWICE in my whole career. THEY ARE RARE and very real children. What these children are experiencing is difficult for many to understand, but that doesn't make their existence any less real. I live by a motto - SEEK TO UNDERSTAND, NOT JUDGE. The first time I dealt with a transgender child I was just as puzzled as the next person. I tried to step into their shoes and see life from their perspective. One was a very macho little girl who wanted to be a boy. The other was a delicate little boy who wanted to be a girl. Interestingly, the boys in school fully accepted the first child and the girls completely embraced the second child. They were a cultural "fit" for these children. That is when I started to understand what life was like for them. They were in bodies that from the outside appearance did not fit who they were on the inside. We should have compassion for these little children and help them grow into healthy adults who are the fullest expression of who they really are - even if that involves for some of them making some surgical or hormonal changes in their physical selves. These are medical decisions best left to professionals working with the children and their families. We should have compassion for these children and their families - not act hateful and spiteful towards them.
Strong public school education is key to a functioning democracy. Civics education is key to a functioning democracy. I feel the frustration in this group. There is a feeling of being irrelevant. Well, I think civics education would be a great thing to focus in on. The WSU 4-H program has the 4-H Know Your Government program every year. How about advertising that program, volunteering to teach youth how to write a bill, how to present a bill, how to testify in public, etc. and building a ground swell of public action? Youth are a positive force. You could speak about civics education to elected officials at these huge public meetings. I think it would be well received and it could really make a positive difference in our political lives oin the peninsula.
I understand your point about the national debates, but as far as our last local elections, the one's hosted by the LWV's, I don't recall anyone attacking the other in any way, shape, or form of the federal debates. And I loved that. State your position, move on. For that I appreciated the local "debates" which weren't a debate, although the LWV host transmitted her political views and that's when my ears perked up and I wondered how hard is it to "keep clam" as Ivar Haglund would quip?
To your point about educating young minds, the Y is also engaged in this.
"Washington YMCA Youth & Government
By nurturing innovation, fostering a sense of responsibility, and building leadership skills, we ensure our future leaders will be active and engaged servant leaders."
I participated in the Y's Youth & Government way back as a junior at SHS, in 1979. The study hall proctor, Jean Montgomery, was our adult mentor. Great time, great experience. And that woman could knock you dead at 50 yards with just a sideways glance!
I'm glad to hear the local speeches were less combative. As far as LWV people expressing their political views, it's never too late to revisit that with them. They need to get feedback when they step over the lines with their "non-partisan" claims. When things are unfolding we often don't deal with it at the time in order to be polite. But that doesn't mean it can't be discussed later - and it should! Even if it's years later - it's never too late to discuss what happened because it's important.
This is a real stretch, Jeff. What you are saying, for example, is that the League of Women Voters cannot criticize an elected official if that official belongs to a party. Are you implying that the LWV can only criticize a non-partisan elected official? As for tonight's telephone townhall, my understanding is that no state funds are being spent on that. Are you saying that elected officials cannot meet with partisan organizations while the elected officials receive a salary from their government? Do any elected Republicans receiving governmental salaries attend the CPAC Convention?
Hi, Ron. What are the last three ads the Clallam County LWV has run in the Peninsula Daily News? Were they from a diverse range of political views? Additionally, looking at their Facebook page, I see criticism of the right and neutral comments, but I see no criticism of the left.
Why wouldn't the three Town Hall participants reach out to CC Republicans? They represent a significant cross-section of our bellwether county, and that organization could easily attract more participants.
I'm not saying that elected officials cannot meet with partisan organizations; I'm questioning whether this Public Town Hall was equitably advertised (it's "Equitable Wednesday" after all). If Republican elected officials in Clallam County announced a public Town Hall to answer questions from all constituents but only reached out to Republican organizations for promotion, I would have the same criticism.
I wondered the same. The League of Women Voters present facts based on research. All folks can fact check them if so desired. That the facts lead some of the commenters here to perceive partisan sympathy is in the head of the beholder. Watchdog publishes some really interesting research that I enjoy. But to believe it, too, is not partisan would be a stretch. Either radically left or radically right folks are the real problem. Not to mention the actual deniers of reality about the party now currently in the White House causing suffering and painful economic distress among thousands of federal employees and families, not to mention poor families .
"Bellwether" probably should be used in the past tense, Jeff. Those days are very likely over, just as certain as Washington's days as a pragmatic moderate state are three-plus decades in the rear-view mirror.
You're spot on about the Republicans. If they pulled this same stunt, I'd have just as much or more fun ripping them a new one. Clowns to the left of me; jokers to the right.
I'd be interested to know if it is true that nobody reached out to the CC Republicans. Of course, it's difficult to prove that something didn't happen. But in your post, you said that the Clallam Republicans did not receive notice of the town hall until March 17th. How do you know that? And where did this notice eventually come from?
"The League of Women Voters is a nonpartisan grassroots organization"
Maybe they should stop lying?
As for the 24th LD, have you read the words they use? They are gathering as elected officials to update their district on what has happened in Olympia. I find it hard to imagine that this should only be for people with a D behind their name.
Just the name itself is enough to make a person kringe…..it’s so misleading from the start….it should be League of Democrat Women Voters is what is appropriate. Please quit trying to mislead voters……the nation is awake, the nation is red, I can’t understand why they still think voters are stupid. It’s all they have to go on now, the same ole losing playbook that has really ruined this country, this state, this county and this city.
I’m so glad you brought up these questions because it’s been hard for me to understand an organizations stated purpose and yet what they do and advertise is the opposite, it’s been very confusing. People say they are non-partisan but they never are not ever, to be non-partisan you’d never choose one party candidate over the other, otherwise when you choose you are all in one way or the other. There is no non-partisan officials, it’s just another way of being like the LWV, phoney titles to trick people into thinking they are better somehow…..now that’s stupid!
I didn’t read what you are implying about partisan organizations cannot meet with elected officials, that has been happening since the beginning of time, each party has their elected officials and being able to meet with them is important.
Are you saying all the time organizing, the professional advertisement notifications online and in newspapers, a webmaster to send out notifications, communication equipment and network connectivity, phone calls & planning, etc., is all done on the elected officials free time & with their own personal equipment? Think again I’ve got news for you. We the taxpayers are footing all of the elected officials bills, including their cell phones. So when you say you don’t think it is costing the taxpayers anything, THEN WHO IS PAYING FOR ALL THIS TO BE ABLE TO HAPPEN? WHERE ARE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS GETTING THEIR INCOME FROM TO AFFORD TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS? Do you think money is dropping from the sky? That is my question? Please advise.
You cannot attend a Telephone Town Hall. The best you can expect is to participate. There is no face to face interaction. The representatives are shielded from the people they are supposed to work for. We need live Town Halls. These clowns need to face us and feel our displeasure with their piss-poor performance. Telephones have mute buttons and you can rest assured they will use them.
From my understanding town halls are always put on by the party affiliated with the candidate holding office. Republican Party hosts town halls for candidates with Republican elected individuals. The attempt to turn this into something partisan and unique only to Democratic elected leaders is a complete farce that promotes this false identity of victimhood on the part of Republicans. Democrats in red districts face the exact same struggle you face living in blue districts. I am not understanding how your anger is justified other than you are upset you live in a district in which a majority of your neighbors vote blue. Am i missing something here?
If a president, elected by a Republican majority, were to withhold information or limit engagement with a Democratic-majority state simply because most of its residents weren’t in his party, it would absolutely raise concerns about transparency and representation. Leadership should be for everyone, not just those who voted for you. If that kind of exclusion would be unacceptable in one scenario, it should be equally unacceptable in the reverse.
Thank you, Jeff, for keeping us in the loop. Two events tonight; both worth attending. Great news about voter turnout for the CCD election. Again, a giant THANK YOU to CCWD for being on top of this little known event. As for the LWV, all the women I know who belong to that group ARE partisan, i.e. Democrats/Socialists. Sneaky, deceptive, and indifferent, etc. The only words to describe CC politicians. It's sad to know their behaviors breed the decisiveness they blame on others.
Telephone Town Hall last night and the Open Space hearing too. I attended the Charter Review Forum at the Democrat offices in PA. Very pleasant, informative, and interactive... wish we all could have been in three places at once.
Clallam County needs to keep ALL residents informed BY MAIL the same way Jamestown Tribal News Letter does with their members!!
How else do you expect us to know what issues are affecting us and how we can actively be involved??
CC Watchdog isn't nearly enough!!
It's no wonder we're always being outvoted!
Please start keeping us ALL informed so we can effect the positive changes and results best for the people and NOT just the bureaucrats.
Thank you so very much for listening,
Gary Lovgren (resident)
The root of the problem being that one side is better organized than the other. Clallam County Democrats, Indivisible, LWV, and SGGL almost certainly share a number of members (thus, they're virtually indistinguishable from each other). The result is faster, more nimble communication among these groups.
CC Watchdog has been a tremendous help offsetting this communication imbalance, while also negating the local media's gate-keeping and flat-out laziness. I'd like to think there's more that could be done with networking, letter-writing campaigns, etc.
One more thing: Indivisible organizes protests, and SGGL has its fingerprints all over Sequim City Council. Meanwhile, there's an "Invisible Sequim," by which I mean the several hundreds of CCWD readers who could put an oar in the water if they chose to. Think about that.
There are only 50 but they ride like a thousand.
The word "we" is utilized alot in their propaganda, and inclusion takes on new meaning; those in opposition are cut from the herd and disparaged "peacefully".
That's what happens when "tolerance" extends only as far as group-think.
With hoods...
All I'm saying is that Clallam County should put out a newsletter to EVERYONE in Clallam County BEFORE any election in time for EVERYONE to request a mail in ballot so that EVERYONE is able to express their choice of who is deciding where our hard earned dollars are spent and on what!
I for one am sick of bureaucrats and tribes (especially Jamestown) deciding what Clallam County's priorities are and how our money is spent.
Fair is fair.
Am I wrong?
One area that excel is with involvement that only requires being present, to look for chinks in the opposition's armor or being disruptive to the process of other's productive engagement. Social media affords rallying their troops quickly, especially when the troops do not work in traditional jobs, or work from home, which many conservatives do not participate in. Flex-schedules accomodate being online, and also surfing with one's device when having a latte' at Starbucks or walking around doing nothing while "working", and just shifting screens to check emails, etc. Conservatives tend to be more involved in real jobs that require their physical and mental presence, not checking their phone, responding to non-business multiple times between breaks. Liberals know this, and take full advantage of every opportunity, especially if someone else picks up the slack they create, not being the least bit bothered to check back to see if the slack was ever picked up. Masters of reasons and excuses of why I "had to...", or "need to..." or "because..." avoiding honest work, which is beneath them. Conservatives would mostly like to live their lives in peace, without government overreach, and the accompanying unnecessary taxes that fund non-profits and NGOs, for which they receive nothing of value in return. Liberals cannot be still, constantly fidgeting, like children buzzed up on sugar waiting for their Ritalin fix that never arrives, with FOMO being a driving force in their existence. They speak of peace, yet know nothing of it. Ah-h-h, the beauty of retirement; being able to keep abreast of all the closed door policy-making, smoke and mirrors, and those wiley folks behind the curtain, throwing freshly-laundered taxpayer money into projects and campaigns that enrich their lives, exclusively.
Funny you should mention that. While voting, in the hallway yesterday. A lady (wearing a mask) came up to me. She was quite concerned about the election. She hadnt been informed.... she asked what it was for. I pointed across the hallway at the CCD office and told what it was. First thing she asked. Is it a partisan position? This is one of the ways the liberals slither into all the lower office positions in government. All gov positions are partisan. And all gov election canidates should have to truthfully state their party affiliation.
This is like the article that My Clallam County just came out with, "Public comment period to open for Makah whale hunt." It up-plays that the Gray Whales have rebounded and the tribe wants limited hunting rights for ceremonial and subsistence purposes. What? Where was the down-play? Stressing, hunting and killing an intelligent creature is okay because they have rebounded. Subsistence? The same subsistence needed for Salmon fishing?
Anyways, this is another example of important information presented in a slanted manner.
I'm OK with Makahs hunting a whale each year -- with conditions: Make them follow the traditions of their ancestors. Set aside the .50-caliber rifle, go out in one small canoe armed only with a single harpoon, no life vests, no radio, no GPS, no Coast Guard.
People who want to cling to the Stone Age and a Stone Age belief system shouldn't be cut slack.
Have you seen tribal boats? No average person could ever be able to afford one. They are hugh all aluminum custom made fishing boats stacked with expensive gear.for the gathering event at the time. There is no competition to tribal boats. Forget the canoe, pipe dream!
My Clallam County shows a picture of a rudimentary canoe, stocked with basic gear. I'm just blown away!
They want two a year, 25 in 10 years. They claim the high powered rifle is humane for the whale, guess that's a good excuse for not following their oh so important traditions.
Kathy, My Clallam County didn't include that either! What's humane about killing a whale when the meat is not needed? That's inhumane. Thank you for the information.
You're welcome. I don't remember what My Clallam County said but there's a big article in today's PDN.
I don't get PDN, I like free trustworthy news like CCWD and the feedback like you supplied me. Hopefully PDN gives both sides.
I despise the PDN because they rarely give both sides of anything. But, I get it for info that's good to know, even when it's not the truth (if that makes sense).
Paul, at first I highly disagreed, then I really read your conditions. The tribe does not need the food. We need the whales.
That is a pay per view worthy event.
Not to worry, the Tick will be along any moment to straighten things out.
Yeah, come on tick I'm waiting for your tax free whine, don't forget the cheez.
Who's the Tick?
Ixodes
Ixodes name somehow refers to a tick. Ixodes feeds off of CCWD. Best to ignore.
If you get bit by it, get tested for lying disease.
Or the newest variant of TDS....Tozzer Derangement Syndrome
The difference between "rights" and permissions seem to be interchangeable in some minds. If the Makah actually had rights, they would not need to bargain for permission.
How convenient that tonight is the public meeting for Clallam County Review Commission that is for input from the public on possible rule changes. It just happens to be at the Democratic headquarters in PA at 6:00PM. ????
All the elk herd loving Teflon pans that get a subscription to too over populated weekly.
Saving us from ourselves with layers of non-profit jobs playing hide and seek for a grand a week to make sure we come in third place to heal all these bad relationships.
I think it's up to two grand a week.
Surprise surprise. And hardly anyone even knows about it.
In my relatively long life I have swung from both political sides or the plate. Given the volume of Democrat Party corruption comparatively recently exposed, I am admittedly polarization challenged. With that coming out I do not understand why we are hopelessly stuck in this futile Hatfield's versus McCoy's battle. My Presidential choice for today's best of the best would be RFK, Jr.. Is he a Hatfield or a McCoy ? Does it matter ? Perfection is not human attainable. There are good and bad players in any grouping. Take our WEA, the most powerful union in the State, as example. Good or bad ? I know within them there are many invaluable teachers dedicated to their profession. I also know there are inferior performers among them that are next to impossible to terminate because of the excessive union protection they enjoy. So let's get away from the union and look at the profession and it's charge. The WEA has been in control of our educational system for a long time. We have the most expensive educational system in the world with the worst student educational achievement in the world. Is the WEA a success ? Not by the measures of cost or results. The product of unionization has been the good teachers are no more rewarded than the bad ones. In fact, unions protect and thereby promote poor performance. There is room for both, but the unions have become to powerful to allow both. With our Federal management record I see delegating our education to the States as a great action. Those States with great student results will attract wise parents and conversely those with poor results will not. Federalizing our education gets us the highest costs with the worst results. A good teacher has no need for big brother.
The teachers union activists learned a long time ago that they have influence over moldable minds. They champion every progressive cause in the name of children because it wields power as any organization does when it spies a red herring.
If good dedicated teachers would stand up to their union leadership and patrol their own, they could effect change. Unfortunately the majority of members just pay their dues, put in their time and retire. Kinda like the majority of the country who think cradle to grave sucking off the government teat.
Those good dedicated teachers are attacked by their own and ostracized for having a different view point. Everyone is "inclusive" until you don't agree.
Many have left their unions, aided by the Freedom Foundation, which I've proudly donated to for many years. My ex-wife was a teacher, resigned from the union and kept all her pay and benefits. It's the law.
Private-sector unions, such as the one I'm in, serve an important purpose protecting the safety and wages of workers who actually produce tangible goods and services. In contrast, public-sector unions' first priority is siphoning off dues that go directly into Democrat campaign coffers, almost exclusively. How many of you realized that your tax dollars were two steps removed from the Democrat party's fundraising?
My union does not use my dues for politics. That's a separate paycheck deduction which must have my signature.
He/She who controls the NGOs controls the minds of the mindless masses. Yes, all those "non partisan" groups that communicate with bumper sticker slogans... Sadly the mindless are taking over CC with their sheepish votes for a "D" 'no matter what'. I used to be a 'D'... Party left me right of center swerving wildly to the left promoting the absurd.
They will pack the place with Teflon pans that will lob policy questions. Just like the Fish and Wildlife Commission meetings. They bogart the space and forum. You write things down and they pick the questions they want to answer. If there is a free mike I will be astonished.
All I'm saying is that Clallam County should put out a newsletter to EVERYONE in Clallam County BEFORE any election in time for EVERYONE to request a mail in ballot so that EVERYONE is able to express their choice of who is deciding where our hard earned dollars are spent and on what!
I for one am sick of bureaucrats and tribes (especially Jamestown) deciding what Clallam County's priorities are and how our money is spent.
Fair is fair.
Am I wrong?
No. I hope they answer your questions.
So do I, but I'm not holding my breath.
It's reprehensible what going on and corruption is driving it.
To the point of Jeff's topic, until proven otherwise, we must assume that public funds very likely are being used to aid and abet this upcoming Chapman, Tharinger & Co. Lying Circus show.
As no timely notice of this event has yet been received by all constituents in LD24, it's apparent the Big Top is meant to be occupied primarily by a fawning, obsequious audience, eager to applaud as these three clowns tumble from a tiny car, the vehicle plastered with the naggy-preachy bumper stickers so favored by their adoring minions.
Their act will feature truth-defying feats of verbal agility, sophistry, and slight-of-hand that will astound the crowd. But have no fear, Chapman, Tharinger & Co. will assure the masses that raising taxes, passing bogus legislation that increases the price of gasoline, impairing law enforcement, impairing the right to self-defense, abetting the homeless industrial complex, making housing less affordable, and perpetuating the mediocre results from our high-priced public school system while bowing to the WEA really is what "putting people first" means.
The crowd will roar its approval, having received a collective pat on the head, and depart for home happy, but no less ignorant.
CCCC
Clallam County Clown Car
Possibly registered to Clallam Transit?
Mk, that should be CCCP
Clallam County Clown Posse
Lots of gaslighting
Very eloquent and spot on. 👍
Thanks Jeff so glad you picked this topic for discussion. I have thought about organization time to time, but in actuality look what organization has produced, only pockets of radical blue. The nation is really what is grassroots, truth, common sense, democracy, the republic, for the people by the people, one nation under God with Liberty and Justice for all…..organization appears to be over rated.
You're welcome, Pepai!
OMG the political grandstanding in tonight's call was Pepto Bismol worthy.
3500 callers, and all the questions absent one sure seemed one-sided. I got in the queue to ask a question and my question was typed into some system. My hunch is the three were able to pick and choose.
And yet they taughted how democratic they are.
It was all about what the government will give to the people who will vote for these three...and what Trump is taking away. No wonder the Ds stay in power.
Chapman was the most manipulative of the three. Wow, he's got it down and knows how to stay in power.
And then the survey they had. Use your keypad, four options, and none affect me nor do I care about. To choose any gives these three the impression they're all important.
I hear a lot of grousing on this topic. I think it's great that various groups are advertising public meetings. This group and others can do the same. The more involved everyone is the better. These public meetings provide an opportunity for people to get involved in the democratic process. Let's run with it.
The League of Woman Voters lost its non-partisan role when debates ceased to be hosted by them and other non-partisan entities. Republicans allowed Trump to break every rule imaginable during debates to the point that their debate rules became non-existent. Serious candidates were humiliated and disrespected. Debates became a public slug fest rather than a serious discussion about policies. Then Trump created the same situation on the major media debates. It wasn't until the Trump - Biden and then Trump-Harris debates that the corporate media finally got a handle on holding a debate with Trump involved that held the line on some sort of civic decorum - finally. Whew! The Republican Party needs to tighten up their debate rules - kick people out of the auditorium if they make personal attacks on people. Don't put up with that crap. Ad hominem attacks are NOT ACCEPTABLE. They just lower the bar and distract from real civic discourse.
Strategically it's important to "read the room." Talking against “inclusion and a racially equitable public school system for all students” makes no sense to me at all. Children are legally required to attend school and if they are home schooled there are still monitoring mechanisms put in place to ensure they are getting an education. ALL children deserve respect and appropriate support as they live and learn in school settings. No one's child should be given more respect than another to succeed. They all have legal rights to a "free, appropriate education." This includes special education services for children with physical and mental disabilities.
As far as the whole transgender thing goes, I was a school administrator for about 30 years and I only dealt directly with the transitioning of a transgender child TWICE in my whole career. THEY ARE RARE and very real children. What these children are experiencing is difficult for many to understand, but that doesn't make their existence any less real. I live by a motto - SEEK TO UNDERSTAND, NOT JUDGE. The first time I dealt with a transgender child I was just as puzzled as the next person. I tried to step into their shoes and see life from their perspective. One was a very macho little girl who wanted to be a boy. The other was a delicate little boy who wanted to be a girl. Interestingly, the boys in school fully accepted the first child and the girls completely embraced the second child. They were a cultural "fit" for these children. That is when I started to understand what life was like for them. They were in bodies that from the outside appearance did not fit who they were on the inside. We should have compassion for these little children and help them grow into healthy adults who are the fullest expression of who they really are - even if that involves for some of them making some surgical or hormonal changes in their physical selves. These are medical decisions best left to professionals working with the children and their families. We should have compassion for these children and their families - not act hateful and spiteful towards them.
Strong public school education is key to a functioning democracy. Civics education is key to a functioning democracy. I feel the frustration in this group. There is a feeling of being irrelevant. Well, I think civics education would be a great thing to focus in on. The WSU 4-H program has the 4-H Know Your Government program every year. How about advertising that program, volunteering to teach youth how to write a bill, how to present a bill, how to testify in public, etc. and building a ground swell of public action? Youth are a positive force. You could speak about civics education to elected officials at these huge public meetings. I think it would be well received and it could really make a positive difference in our political lives oin the peninsula.
I understand your point about the national debates, but as far as our last local elections, the one's hosted by the LWV's, I don't recall anyone attacking the other in any way, shape, or form of the federal debates. And I loved that. State your position, move on. For that I appreciated the local "debates" which weren't a debate, although the LWV host transmitted her political views and that's when my ears perked up and I wondered how hard is it to "keep clam" as Ivar Haglund would quip?
To your point about educating young minds, the Y is also engaged in this.
"Washington YMCA Youth & Government
By nurturing innovation, fostering a sense of responsibility, and building leadership skills, we ensure our future leaders will be active and engaged servant leaders."
https://www.seattleymca.org/programs/youthprograms/washington-youth-government
I participated in the Y's Youth & Government way back as a junior at SHS, in 1979. The study hall proctor, Jean Montgomery, was our adult mentor. Great time, great experience. And that woman could knock you dead at 50 yards with just a sideways glance!
Too funny! You see the impact she had on your willingness and comfort in remaining politically active now. She created a powerful force!
I'm glad to hear the local speeches were less combative. As far as LWV people expressing their political views, it's never too late to revisit that with them. They need to get feedback when they step over the lines with their "non-partisan" claims. When things are unfolding we often don't deal with it at the time in order to be polite. But that doesn't mean it can't be discussed later - and it should! Even if it's years later - it's never too late to discuss what happened because it's important.
This is a real stretch, Jeff. What you are saying, for example, is that the League of Women Voters cannot criticize an elected official if that official belongs to a party. Are you implying that the LWV can only criticize a non-partisan elected official? As for tonight's telephone townhall, my understanding is that no state funds are being spent on that. Are you saying that elected officials cannot meet with partisan organizations while the elected officials receive a salary from their government? Do any elected Republicans receiving governmental salaries attend the CPAC Convention?
Hi, Ron. What are the last three ads the Clallam County LWV has run in the Peninsula Daily News? Were they from a diverse range of political views? Additionally, looking at their Facebook page, I see criticism of the right and neutral comments, but I see no criticism of the left.
Why wouldn't the three Town Hall participants reach out to CC Republicans? They represent a significant cross-section of our bellwether county, and that organization could easily attract more participants.
I'm not saying that elected officials cannot meet with partisan organizations; I'm questioning whether this Public Town Hall was equitably advertised (it's "Equitable Wednesday" after all). If Republican elected officials in Clallam County announced a public Town Hall to answer questions from all constituents but only reached out to Republican organizations for promotion, I would have the same criticism.
I wonder why Republicans are not reaching out to Clallam County to do a Town Hall?
You mean the 24th LD elected Republicans?
I wondered the same. The League of Women Voters present facts based on research. All folks can fact check them if so desired. That the facts lead some of the commenters here to perceive partisan sympathy is in the head of the beholder. Watchdog publishes some really interesting research that I enjoy. But to believe it, too, is not partisan would be a stretch. Either radically left or radically right folks are the real problem. Not to mention the actual deniers of reality about the party now currently in the White House causing suffering and painful economic distress among thousands of federal employees and families, not to mention poor families .
"Bellwether" probably should be used in the past tense, Jeff. Those days are very likely over, just as certain as Washington's days as a pragmatic moderate state are three-plus decades in the rear-view mirror.
You're spot on about the Republicans. If they pulled this same stunt, I'd have just as much or more fun ripping them a new one. Clowns to the left of me; jokers to the right.
I'd be interested to know if it is true that nobody reached out to the CC Republicans. Of course, it's difficult to prove that something didn't happen. But in your post, you said that the Clallam Republicans did not receive notice of the town hall until March 17th. How do you know that? And where did this notice eventually come from?
I talked to the FB moderator. She is signed up for notices and let me know when it came through.
I'll say it, because they say it.
"The League of Women Voters is a nonpartisan grassroots organization"
Maybe they should stop lying?
As for the 24th LD, have you read the words they use? They are gathering as elected officials to update their district on what has happened in Olympia. I find it hard to imagine that this should only be for people with a D behind their name.
https://housedemocrats.wa.gov/tharinger/2025/03/14/youre-invited-24th-district-telephone-town-hall-meeting-at-630-p-m-wednesday-march-19/
In both cases we have a group of people who like to use words to give an impression. In both cases we have liars.
Are you defending deceit? How is this a stretch?
Just the name itself is enough to make a person kringe…..it’s so misleading from the start….it should be League of Democrat Women Voters is what is appropriate. Please quit trying to mislead voters……the nation is awake, the nation is red, I can’t understand why they still think voters are stupid. It’s all they have to go on now, the same ole losing playbook that has really ruined this country, this state, this county and this city.
I’m so glad you brought up these questions because it’s been hard for me to understand an organizations stated purpose and yet what they do and advertise is the opposite, it’s been very confusing. People say they are non-partisan but they never are not ever, to be non-partisan you’d never choose one party candidate over the other, otherwise when you choose you are all in one way or the other. There is no non-partisan officials, it’s just another way of being like the LWV, phoney titles to trick people into thinking they are better somehow…..now that’s stupid!
I didn’t read what you are implying about partisan organizations cannot meet with elected officials, that has been happening since the beginning of time, each party has their elected officials and being able to meet with them is important.
Are you saying all the time organizing, the professional advertisement notifications online and in newspapers, a webmaster to send out notifications, communication equipment and network connectivity, phone calls & planning, etc., is all done on the elected officials free time & with their own personal equipment? Think again I’ve got news for you. We the taxpayers are footing all of the elected officials bills, including their cell phones. So when you say you don’t think it is costing the taxpayers anything, THEN WHO IS PAYING FOR ALL THIS TO BE ABLE TO HAPPEN? WHERE ARE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS GETTING THEIR INCOME FROM TO AFFORD TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS? Do you think money is dropping from the sky? That is my question? Please advise.
You cannot attend a Telephone Town Hall. The best you can expect is to participate. There is no face to face interaction. The representatives are shielded from the people they are supposed to work for. We need live Town Halls. These clowns need to face us and feel our displeasure with their piss-poor performance. Telephones have mute buttons and you can rest assured they will use them.
From my understanding town halls are always put on by the party affiliated with the candidate holding office. Republican Party hosts town halls for candidates with Republican elected individuals. The attempt to turn this into something partisan and unique only to Democratic elected leaders is a complete farce that promotes this false identity of victimhood on the part of Republicans. Democrats in red districts face the exact same struggle you face living in blue districts. I am not understanding how your anger is justified other than you are upset you live in a district in which a majority of your neighbors vote blue. Am i missing something here?
If a president, elected by a Republican majority, were to withhold information or limit engagement with a Democratic-majority state simply because most of its residents weren’t in his party, it would absolutely raise concerns about transparency and representation. Leadership should be for everyone, not just those who voted for you. If that kind of exclusion would be unacceptable in one scenario, it should be equally unacceptable in the reverse.