Well done. There is a clear distinction between Tribe-the-business / its leadership and the tribal members. This is about a business leveraging its position to manipulate the county to benefit said business - not the county's citizens. Because they have "tribe" in their company name, they are given a certain amount of leeway that any other business entity would not get. The tribe-as-a-business can switch hats when it suits them. If it were simply a business, the scrutiny would be unbelievable. In this day and age, it is not PC to say "no" to anything associated with "the tribe". That's unfortunate.
The delaying tactics for Towne Road by the tribe-business and the DLTA-business (because, as one of the Eberles said, "this is not a charity") are so that the Towne Road grant money expires. If they can get it delayed past the end of the year, the grant money will expire. Then what? Isn't that grant money something like $1.6M?
IF THAT HAPPENS: I hope many of us will be ready to seek collective legal counsel because all bets are off at that point that Towne Road will ever re-open.
How will it look before a court when the Tribe-business says on one hand, "we must delay the re-opening of the road" for (fill-in-the-blank-green-washing-reason) and on the other hand they say, "Here we present our competitive bid on completing Towne Road to you, County Commissioners"?
And then there are the Eberles/private landowners/co-founders of DLTA who have pretty much exclusive use of the road while it's closed....
"Tire wear particles and 6PPD-q kills salmon, the road must be closed!"
Closely followed by:
- hosting a gathering at their barn-that's-not-a-venue that had over 50 vehicles traversing Towne Road (that very road they don't want re-opened)
- driving heavy farm machinery and personal vehicles over sensitive wetlands and around Meadowbrook Creek (both happen to be on their property so they can kill all the salmon they want?)
- driving wrecklessly on Towne Road with their personal vehicles. A friend noted these people regularly drive too fast on the gravel road bed, whether people are walking there or not. This is certainly a subjective call but if a pedestrian has to be concerned about being hit by a car while walking on what DLTA says is a "safe place" to walk because the road is closed to everyone except a few, well, those vehicles are probably going too fast.
Very astute analysis, Mr. Johnson. And, as an enrolled tribal elder, I appreciate the distinction between the Tribe-the-business/leadership and our members.
Driving a back hoe right over salmon beds to dredge a tributary they never should have created in a rain shadow,,, Motion lights to scare away birds who used to eat oysters... They cannot be the lead on the Dungeness projects anymore.
Such irony with the tribe "we don't want the road" to "give us the contract to pave the road"......just too much coziness between the tribe and that one commissioner...furthermore... what IS an "outdoor classroom"? Just curious about how that roadbed is a "classroom"!
I think it's clear. They want the grant money to expire, and what better way to ensure that than to get the contract to do the work, then drag their feet until it does. No surprises here.
THIS IS WHAT THE COUNTY AND TRIBE WANT? WELL MR. ALLEN YOU ONLY WANT TO CONTROL THE COUNTY. WHY SHOULD THE REST OF THE COUNTY CONTINUE TO LIVE HERE. WHY SHOULD WE BE CONCERNED WITH SAFETY? THE TRIBE IS NOT CONCERNED WITH SAFETY INSTEAD, CONCERNED WITH SHUTTING DOWN ROADS AND TAKING GAINING PROPERTY ONLY.
I truly think the hierarchy of the tribe has or is reaching the point that’s similar to the captains in ‘the Cane Mutiny and Mr. Roberts’ and will soon start losing it in front of everyone so bad that any “confidence” we’ve had in their projects will be blown! Exposed! Etc.... especially the issue with the ELWA an the DAM ... losing an independent source for electricity... maybe I’m wrong about that but that’s what I’ve heard... but they are really over stepping... time has come today!!!!
Thank you again Jeff. I do think that collaboration is important. Collaboration as its defined. Collaboration is not steam-rolling or manipulation or any type of corruption.
This is MUCH bigger than a few corrupt officials in the county and the tribe...climate change carbon mania environmentalism is a psychological weapon not a legitimate means to manage our impacts on nature.
It is all tied together at the level of Agenda 21/30/50, etc. from the U.N., W.E.F., W.H.O., Council on Foreign Relations, the Rockefeller and Rothschild banksters. The 'agenda' is depopulation, population densification, re-wilding virtually everything...there are written records and maps if anyone cares to research this. This agenda is traceable to Mark Ozias through U.N.- Agenda 21... ICLEI in Germany through Portland, OR...DLTA locally. Search The Rothschilds' 25 Point Plan for World Domination penned in 1773, before we even had a Constitution. Nothing is all that new...it's just becoming evident because of the 'Inter-NET' and the 'World-wide WEB'. Much of what we need to know is available but needs to be searched for and is often censored or hidden. EVERYTHING is being netted... caught in the web... and organized and collated and distributed in heavily biased form and through NGO's infiltrating governments at every level. It feels like swimming upstream against flood waters of insanity and I don't know what else to do besides waking up and trying to keep information flowing. The 'net' has been cast and is being slowly and not so slowly closed and drawn in. Who will escape the net is anyones guess but it has been deployed carefully and continuously for decades and no good net-tender likes to let their 'catch' escape. Resistance is punished, truth is buried, dissidents persecuted. Welcome to the New World Disorder! The dangers of our FREE WILL ZONE in the Cosmos...God bless everyone!
Funny how artifacts were found at the Wilson farm that was up for sale a couple years ago, which contains a portion of Meadowbrook Creek, and the Tribe never purchased these ancestral lands with important historical significance…
And I might be wrong, but it looks like the headwaters of Meadowbrook Creek start at a gravel pit… is that environmentally friendly?
And how is monitoring 0.6 miles of road of any significance unless the entire river corridor upstream is monitored? Wouldn’t WDFW be responsible for this?
I still don't understand how the Tribe, who pays no taxes, has influence over those of us that do. Perhaps a class action lawsuit to force them to cease and desist might reduce their egregious arrogance and influence selling to corrupt politicians.
FYI they pay taxes on property not put into tribal trusts or request for exemption property, so they do pay taxes. Why they are so influential is because they insert themselves into every aspect, or those they choose, of development in Sequim. The totem pole standing at the City of Sequim speaks volumes that they are a very special group unlike any other. Do you see any other groups represented there?
“Totem poles are thought of as symbols of Seattle by many residents and visitors, but, in fact, the indigenous people of Washington state, the Coast Salish peoples, did not traditionally carve totems.
Instead, these tall multi-figured poles originated much farther north on the Pacific coast and represent the crests of clans and family histories of the indigenous people of Coastal Alaska and Canada. The appropriation of this symbol by Seattle dates to the late 1800s when entrepreneurial civic leaders sought to position Seattle as the “Gateway to Alaska” by installing an Alaskan pole downtown.
In August 1899, a group of Seattle businessmen sailed to Alaska in search of a pole. Their skipper took them to the Tlingit village of Tongass, which appeared abandoned because most of the residents were temporarily away for the summer fishing and cannery season. The Seattle group cut down a 60-foot-tall pole belonging to Chief Kininook's family and towed it to Seattle.
The pole was formally presented to the Seattle City Council on October 17, 1899, and raised at Pioneer Place the next day in honor of a woman named “Chief-of-all-Women,” but became known as the “Seattle Totem.” Images of the pole were featured on tourist information, and local curio shops began marketing model poles based on it. It was not until 1940 when University of Washington anthropologist, Dr. Viola Garfield, published a history of the pole that corrected decades of misinformation….
The totem pole became much more prominent as a symbol of Seattle during the Alaska Yukon Pacific (AYP) Exposition in 1909. One of the boosters of the World’s Fair was James Stanley, owner of the Ye Old Curiosity Shop in downtown Seattle. Stanley marketed model totem poles in his store, and promoted them as a symbol of the fair. A loose sketch of the Kininook “Seattle” pole appeared on the cover of each AYP official daily program. An image of the pole was also placed on a poster and used on the handles of AYP souvenir spoons, postcards, and other memorabilia.“
“The Jamestown S’Klallam Tribe has been carving totem poles for over 25 years. More than 35 totems grace their tribal campus in Blyn, seven miles east of Sequim on the Olympic Peninsula.”
My Uncle "Brick" Johnson (S'Klallam leader and artist) carved the first totem to be erected in the immediate vicinity in 1969. It stands in Pioneer Memorial Park in Sequim.
Jeff - there is a Netflix show about a stalker. I’ve been watching it, thinking about the person who seems to keep an eye on everything you say and do. Stalking isn’t always a ‘romantic’ thing. You may want to check local court records to see their history. How they aligned themselves with your opposition is concerning. Perhaps even the DLTA doesn’t know about the history of their own ‘friend’. It certainly doesn’t lend credibility to that group. Please stay safe.
It's just my luck to have a stalker who isn't romantic. Thanks for the heads-up; I know who she is. (Can you blame anyone for developing an obsession with me?)
Perhaps she will begin to realize that being a pawn in someone else’s game isn’t going to help her emotional well being. That’s the tragedy. It’s legitimately sad, but it isn’t the first time they have done that to someone.
People aren’t an arsenal. We are a community. You understand that and we see it.
However, I am not sure if the Towne Road project is a stellar example of such a collective effort.
Maybe they have both learned something.
Plus the local residents need to support such collective effort.
The Towne road land owners adjacent to the road easement should help the county in improvements to safety of the road users and residents by allowing the county to obtain more land easements to facilitate widening of the paved surface of the south reach of the road.
The land owners adjacent to the road easement can help the County any time they want for improvements to safety. According to the land owners, who have attended & commented at BOC meetings they want Towne Road to remain closed because according to them there is no one who will use Towne Road so why would there be a need to widen it to the south? Oh so the land owners can have a wider updated road at the expense of taxpayers? Otherwise according to the land owners keeping Towne Road closed is just fine with them? I’d like to have Medsker widened because it’s an old road with no shoulders for foot traffic, is regularly used for bicycle routes during rally’s and is a narrow dangerous winding road with a blind curve so why should south Towne Road be so important over all the other County roads? Its not. BTW on Medsker there is an existing 15’ easement already both sides and there are no plans to widen Medsker, there are other projects to spend tax $$$$’s on.
Jeff, I'm not quite sure what you are doing here. Are you watchdogging the County commissioners and the county government, or are you reprimanding the Jamestown Tribe? Seriously, you're presenting a one-sided point of view in presentation attitude that is detailing the negative aspects of the Tribe toward the Towne Road Project. The bottom line, from what I have read in your article, is that the Tribe has been requesting a plan for stormwater management of that new road that has yet to be provided to them by the County. So, why isn't the county providing a plan? Does anyone know that you can combine a pedestrian boardwalk and a storm water run-off trough on the restored river side of the road, and then another storm water run-off trough on its other side? Look at what they did in Incline Village, NV at Lake Tahoe with its relatively new pedestrian walkway and storm water run-off containment along Lake Tahoe Blvd. from the Village to Sand Harbor. Check it out. It can be done. Now, I think the commissioners need to get their act together on this issue. I happen to know for fact that what the tribe is asking for is environmentally more than reasonable. As far as I see it, Jeff, regarding your pole at the end of the article, anything less than a YES, they need to collaborate answer, signifies emotional selfishness and ignorance of environmental protection mitigation efforts on behalf of wildlife in and off raparian habitats. I support the Tribe, and I'm an old cracker white guy who knows his stuff. Deal with it. I saw what those three commissioners did to the County's former Director of Development, Mary Ellen Winborn. I saw their inability to provide the appropriate and proper leadership and support to Winborn over that Judy Lee application. And I just read their inability to present a plan of any kind to the Tribe. I'm done.
The short answer is that I'm all about transparency, and I see where Clallam County and the Jamestown Tribe could both benefit from a more transparent partnership. I'm not reprimanding the Tribe, but I am concerned that their goals do not align with those of the County. That may be why millions of taxpayer dollars were wasted, Dungeness lost its most direct link to Sequim, and public safety has suffered. All these things were avoidable and I hope they can be avoided in future endeavors.
John Worthington seems to know a lot of the specifics. I haven't researched the details myself, but I've scrutinized John's previous research and found it to be flawless.
The article concluded with a very similar County-Tribal partnership example, and I hoped to show that these collaborations can be successful. The poll at the end was meant to sample public sentiment, which may be an important factor as the County and Tribe embark on building the Dungeness Reservoir together—it shares many factors with the Towne Road project, but it's much bigger.
I'll continue asking questions, sharing public documents, and encouraging readers to form opinions. Thank you for reading and engaging.
The Tribe-business has been a partner on the Dungeness Restoration Project and Towne Road re-route pretty much from the beginning. They seem to have several NEW demands/requests of the county after trying to "pause" the project, after purposely breaching the old levee without officially alerting the county they were doing that. If they were truly partners on the project, none of this should have happened. Perhaps their requests would seem "more than reasonable" to many of the county citizens if they hadn't done that. Now they seem to be trying to bully the county into doing what they want. Environmentally friendly or not, that doesn't sit well with many of the citizens of the county.
To your point about how the storm water can be mitigated, you are correct only in that there are many, many ways the storm water can be mitigated and include a trail. The county has come up with one way that exceeds current standards in this state. Yours is just one of many.
To reflect back to you on your comment: I'm not sure what you are doing here. Is your point that the tribe-business is always environmentally friendly? And therefore what they're CURRENTLY requesting (because they have been a longterm partner on this project and could've asked a hella lot sooner) is environmentally "more than reasonable"? More reasonable than what? More reasonable than what is already being planned by the county? Sure. There's always a better plan coming from some "environmental" expert somewhere. But better for whom and better how? Cost? Environment? Time? Project Objectives? For the community as a whole? The river will continue to flow despite Towne Road being completed. It might not continue to flow from other influences that have been exposed during this process. Towne Road completion will do no more damage to (and likely significantly LESS damage to) the salmon and the river than what the tribe-business does and what the "farming" next door to the river already does. I'm no environmental expert but it seems pretty darn obvious.... and yet these are the entities blocking the re-opening of Towne Road. Makes me scratch my head.
Many of us have seen, locally, the environmental effects of the tribe-business in many areas, as John Worthington has pointed out.
"The bottom line, from what I have read in your article, is that the Tribe has been requesting a plan for stormwater management of that new road that has yet to be provided to them by the County. So, why isn't the county providing a plan? "
Why doesn't 101 at jimmycomelately and Dungeness have stormwater. Why are those areas with way more traffic exempt ? How do casino properties become exempt/ What Dungeness doesn't have a casino, sell gas smokes, alcohol tax free to buy politicos from Democratic party..how else do 250 non taxpayers get such sway.
"I happen to know for fact that what the tribe is asking for is environmentally more than reasonable."
OK , where is their stormwater project for Jimmycomelately? and Dungeness crosssing.. If its "reasonable" why not do the roads with the most traffic? All that for a road they say nobody needs or travels on????
"emotional selfishness and ignorance of environmental protection mitigation efforts on behalf of wildlife in and off raparian habitats. "
The tribe is no environmental savior. Environmental saviors disclose how many oysters they harvest to know if the migratory birds were starved of food and sought an easy replacement with salmon swimming in shallow tributaries the tribes know better not to have on Jimmycomelately and Elwha. We are supposed to take your word? For all we know you take that we live and work on tribal land oath. I grew up with tribal members. After 40 years of 60 grand a year pulling fish out of a river..I just don't feel sorry for them like I used to. That's 1 guy two . four million dollars. Hemi 4x4 ,30 ft boat, 500 horse engine, 90 foot net...Sorry. There is no more reckoning or reparations required for them anymore. Now they flood the Dungeness using policy they themselves do not use. Sorry your upset I dont keep buying the window dressing and greenwashing.
Well done. There is a clear distinction between Tribe-the-business / its leadership and the tribal members. This is about a business leveraging its position to manipulate the county to benefit said business - not the county's citizens. Because they have "tribe" in their company name, they are given a certain amount of leeway that any other business entity would not get. The tribe-as-a-business can switch hats when it suits them. If it were simply a business, the scrutiny would be unbelievable. In this day and age, it is not PC to say "no" to anything associated with "the tribe". That's unfortunate.
The delaying tactics for Towne Road by the tribe-business and the DLTA-business (because, as one of the Eberles said, "this is not a charity") are so that the Towne Road grant money expires. If they can get it delayed past the end of the year, the grant money will expire. Then what? Isn't that grant money something like $1.6M?
IF THAT HAPPENS: I hope many of us will be ready to seek collective legal counsel because all bets are off at that point that Towne Road will ever re-open.
How will it look before a court when the Tribe-business says on one hand, "we must delay the re-opening of the road" for (fill-in-the-blank-green-washing-reason) and on the other hand they say, "Here we present our competitive bid on completing Towne Road to you, County Commissioners"?
And then there are the Eberles/private landowners/co-founders of DLTA who have pretty much exclusive use of the road while it's closed....
"Tire wear particles and 6PPD-q kills salmon, the road must be closed!"
Closely followed by:
- hosting a gathering at their barn-that's-not-a-venue that had over 50 vehicles traversing Towne Road (that very road they don't want re-opened)
- driving heavy farm machinery and personal vehicles over sensitive wetlands and around Meadowbrook Creek (both happen to be on their property so they can kill all the salmon they want?)
- driving wrecklessly on Towne Road with their personal vehicles. A friend noted these people regularly drive too fast on the gravel road bed, whether people are walking there or not. This is certainly a subjective call but if a pedestrian has to be concerned about being hit by a car while walking on what DLTA says is a "safe place" to walk because the road is closed to everyone except a few, well, those vehicles are probably going too fast.
Very astute analysis, Mr. Johnson. And, as an enrolled tribal elder, I appreciate the distinction between the Tribe-the-business/leadership and our members.
Driving a back hoe right over salmon beds to dredge a tributary they never should have created in a rain shadow,,, Motion lights to scare away birds who used to eat oysters... They cannot be the lead on the Dungeness projects anymore.
You hit the proverbial nail on the head, in your response!
Collaborate, yes. Control, dictate, demand, threaten, bribe, sabotage, no.
Such irony with the tribe "we don't want the road" to "give us the contract to pave the road"......just too much coziness between the tribe and that one commissioner...furthermore... what IS an "outdoor classroom"? Just curious about how that roadbed is a "classroom"!
I think it's clear. They want the grant money to expire, and what better way to ensure that than to get the contract to do the work, then drag their feet until it does. No surprises here.
THIS IS WHAT THE COUNTY AND TRIBE WANT? WELL MR. ALLEN YOU ONLY WANT TO CONTROL THE COUNTY. WHY SHOULD THE REST OF THE COUNTY CONTINUE TO LIVE HERE. WHY SHOULD WE BE CONCERNED WITH SAFETY? THE TRIBE IS NOT CONCERNED WITH SAFETY INSTEAD, CONCERNED WITH SHUTTING DOWN ROADS AND TAKING GAINING PROPERTY ONLY.
Fool us once, shame on thee...fool us twice, shame on we!
I truly think the hierarchy of the tribe has or is reaching the point that’s similar to the captains in ‘the Cane Mutiny and Mr. Roberts’ and will soon start losing it in front of everyone so bad that any “confidence” we’ve had in their projects will be blown! Exposed! Etc.... especially the issue with the ELWA an the DAM ... losing an independent source for electricity... maybe I’m wrong about that but that’s what I’ve heard... but they are really over stepping... time has come today!!!!
Thanks Jeff excellent exposé
Thank you again Jeff. I do think that collaboration is important. Collaboration as its defined. Collaboration is not steam-rolling or manipulation or any type of corruption.
Eyes open and having a diligent watch dog!
You're welcome!
This is MUCH bigger than a few corrupt officials in the county and the tribe...climate change carbon mania environmentalism is a psychological weapon not a legitimate means to manage our impacts on nature.
It is all tied together at the level of Agenda 21/30/50, etc. from the U.N., W.E.F., W.H.O., Council on Foreign Relations, the Rockefeller and Rothschild banksters. The 'agenda' is depopulation, population densification, re-wilding virtually everything...there are written records and maps if anyone cares to research this. This agenda is traceable to Mark Ozias through U.N.- Agenda 21... ICLEI in Germany through Portland, OR...DLTA locally. Search The Rothschilds' 25 Point Plan for World Domination penned in 1773, before we even had a Constitution. Nothing is all that new...it's just becoming evident because of the 'Inter-NET' and the 'World-wide WEB'. Much of what we need to know is available but needs to be searched for and is often censored or hidden. EVERYTHING is being netted... caught in the web... and organized and collated and distributed in heavily biased form and through NGO's infiltrating governments at every level. It feels like swimming upstream against flood waters of insanity and I don't know what else to do besides waking up and trying to keep information flowing. The 'net' has been cast and is being slowly and not so slowly closed and drawn in. Who will escape the net is anyones guess but it has been deployed carefully and continuously for decades and no good net-tender likes to let their 'catch' escape. Resistance is punished, truth is buried, dissidents persecuted. Welcome to the New World Disorder! The dangers of our FREE WILL ZONE in the Cosmos...God bless everyone!
Look up NWRI Northwest Research Institute on Clallam County's infiltration by NWO Agenda. From 2011!
Funny how artifacts were found at the Wilson farm that was up for sale a couple years ago, which contains a portion of Meadowbrook Creek, and the Tribe never purchased these ancestral lands with important historical significance…
And I might be wrong, but it looks like the headwaters of Meadowbrook Creek start at a gravel pit… is that environmentally friendly?
And how is monitoring 0.6 miles of road of any significance unless the entire river corridor upstream is monitored? Wouldn’t WDFW be responsible for this?
That's a new insight for me about the artifacts.
Meadowbrook Creek deserves some additional scrutiny.
I had similar thoughts about the sham monitoring. Upstream activity, creeks, certain wetlands and more.
It all seems like an attempt at a sanctioned land grab. Tribe-business and private parties both trying.
I still don't understand how the Tribe, who pays no taxes, has influence over those of us that do. Perhaps a class action lawsuit to force them to cease and desist might reduce their egregious arrogance and influence selling to corrupt politicians.
FYI they pay taxes on property not put into tribal trusts or request for exemption property, so they do pay taxes. Why they are so influential is because they insert themselves into every aspect, or those they choose, of development in Sequim. The totem pole standing at the City of Sequim speaks volumes that they are a very special group unlike any other. Do you see any other groups represented there?
“Totem poles are thought of as symbols of Seattle by many residents and visitors, but, in fact, the indigenous people of Washington state, the Coast Salish peoples, did not traditionally carve totems.
Instead, these tall multi-figured poles originated much farther north on the Pacific coast and represent the crests of clans and family histories of the indigenous people of Coastal Alaska and Canada. The appropriation of this symbol by Seattle dates to the late 1800s when entrepreneurial civic leaders sought to position Seattle as the “Gateway to Alaska” by installing an Alaskan pole downtown.
In August 1899, a group of Seattle businessmen sailed to Alaska in search of a pole. Their skipper took them to the Tlingit village of Tongass, which appeared abandoned because most of the residents were temporarily away for the summer fishing and cannery season. The Seattle group cut down a 60-foot-tall pole belonging to Chief Kininook's family and towed it to Seattle.
The pole was formally presented to the Seattle City Council on October 17, 1899, and raised at Pioneer Place the next day in honor of a woman named “Chief-of-all-Women,” but became known as the “Seattle Totem.” Images of the pole were featured on tourist information, and local curio shops began marketing model poles based on it. It was not until 1940 when University of Washington anthropologist, Dr. Viola Garfield, published a history of the pole that corrected decades of misinformation….
The totem pole became much more prominent as a symbol of Seattle during the Alaska Yukon Pacific (AYP) Exposition in 1909. One of the boosters of the World’s Fair was James Stanley, owner of the Ye Old Curiosity Shop in downtown Seattle. Stanley marketed model totem poles in his store, and promoted them as a symbol of the fair. A loose sketch of the Kininook “Seattle” pole appeared on the cover of each AYP official daily program. An image of the pole was also placed on a poster and used on the handles of AYP souvenir spoons, postcards, and other memorabilia.“
https://www.burkemuseum.org/news/how-did-totem-poles-become-symbol-seattle
You are absolutely correct. We were not totem carvers.
That is a very interesting & informative history of the Seattle City Council totem pole & what a great marketing tool it became.
“The Jamestown S’Klallam Tribe has been carving totem poles for over 25 years. More than 35 totems grace their tribal campus in Blyn, seven miles east of Sequim on the Olympic Peninsula.”
https://olympicpeninsula.org/totem-poles-of-the-jamestown-sklallam-tribe/
My Uncle "Brick" Johnson (S'Klallam leader and artist) carved the first totem to be erected in the immediate vicinity in 1969. It stands in Pioneer Memorial Park in Sequim.
Ethel: What level of significance do totems hold for the S'Klallam, even though it has been a more recent addition to their rich cultural heritage?
I appreciate your willingness to share and educate.
Jeff - there is a Netflix show about a stalker. I’ve been watching it, thinking about the person who seems to keep an eye on everything you say and do. Stalking isn’t always a ‘romantic’ thing. You may want to check local court records to see their history. How they aligned themselves with your opposition is concerning. Perhaps even the DLTA doesn’t know about the history of their own ‘friend’. It certainly doesn’t lend credibility to that group. Please stay safe.
It's just my luck to have a stalker who isn't romantic. Thanks for the heads-up; I know who she is. (Can you blame anyone for developing an obsession with me?)
I definitely can understand - you are a treasure!
Perhaps she will begin to realize that being a pawn in someone else’s game isn’t going to help her emotional well being. That’s the tragedy. It’s legitimately sad, but it isn’t the first time they have done that to someone.
People aren’t an arsenal. We are a community. You understand that and we see it.
I think the main people do know who she is/what she does.
Yes.
They should and must collaborate on projects.
However, I am not sure if the Towne Road project is a stellar example of such a collective effort.
Maybe they have both learned something.
Plus the local residents need to support such collective effort.
The Towne road land owners adjacent to the road easement should help the county in improvements to safety of the road users and residents by allowing the county to obtain more land easements to facilitate widening of the paved surface of the south reach of the road.
The land owners adjacent to the road easement can help the County any time they want for improvements to safety. According to the land owners, who have attended & commented at BOC meetings they want Towne Road to remain closed because according to them there is no one who will use Towne Road so why would there be a need to widen it to the south? Oh so the land owners can have a wider updated road at the expense of taxpayers? Otherwise according to the land owners keeping Towne Road closed is just fine with them? I’d like to have Medsker widened because it’s an old road with no shoulders for foot traffic, is regularly used for bicycle routes during rally’s and is a narrow dangerous winding road with a blind curve so why should south Towne Road be so important over all the other County roads? Its not. BTW on Medsker there is an existing 15’ easement already both sides and there are no plans to widen Medsker, there are other projects to spend tax $$$$’s on.
Pepai...bravo...nailed it again!
That could turn into a hot mess ... of demand and or compensation... big brother bites... seems altruistic but again both sides are Not equal.
Jeff, I'm not quite sure what you are doing here. Are you watchdogging the County commissioners and the county government, or are you reprimanding the Jamestown Tribe? Seriously, you're presenting a one-sided point of view in presentation attitude that is detailing the negative aspects of the Tribe toward the Towne Road Project. The bottom line, from what I have read in your article, is that the Tribe has been requesting a plan for stormwater management of that new road that has yet to be provided to them by the County. So, why isn't the county providing a plan? Does anyone know that you can combine a pedestrian boardwalk and a storm water run-off trough on the restored river side of the road, and then another storm water run-off trough on its other side? Look at what they did in Incline Village, NV at Lake Tahoe with its relatively new pedestrian walkway and storm water run-off containment along Lake Tahoe Blvd. from the Village to Sand Harbor. Check it out. It can be done. Now, I think the commissioners need to get their act together on this issue. I happen to know for fact that what the tribe is asking for is environmentally more than reasonable. As far as I see it, Jeff, regarding your pole at the end of the article, anything less than a YES, they need to collaborate answer, signifies emotional selfishness and ignorance of environmental protection mitigation efforts on behalf of wildlife in and off raparian habitats. I support the Tribe, and I'm an old cracker white guy who knows his stuff. Deal with it. I saw what those three commissioners did to the County's former Director of Development, Mary Ellen Winborn. I saw their inability to provide the appropriate and proper leadership and support to Winborn over that Judy Lee application. And I just read their inability to present a plan of any kind to the Tribe. I'm done.
Hi Bill,
The short answer is that I'm all about transparency, and I see where Clallam County and the Jamestown Tribe could both benefit from a more transparent partnership. I'm not reprimanding the Tribe, but I am concerned that their goals do not align with those of the County. That may be why millions of taxpayer dollars were wasted, Dungeness lost its most direct link to Sequim, and public safety has suffered. All these things were avoidable and I hope they can be avoided in future endeavors.
John Worthington seems to know a lot of the specifics. I haven't researched the details myself, but I've scrutinized John's previous research and found it to be flawless.
The article concluded with a very similar County-Tribal partnership example, and I hoped to show that these collaborations can be successful. The poll at the end was meant to sample public sentiment, which may be an important factor as the County and Tribe embark on building the Dungeness Reservoir together—it shares many factors with the Towne Road project, but it's much bigger.
I'll continue asking questions, sharing public documents, and encouraging readers to form opinions. Thank you for reading and engaging.
Jeff
Exactly
The Tribe-business has been a partner on the Dungeness Restoration Project and Towne Road re-route pretty much from the beginning. They seem to have several NEW demands/requests of the county after trying to "pause" the project, after purposely breaching the old levee without officially alerting the county they were doing that. If they were truly partners on the project, none of this should have happened. Perhaps their requests would seem "more than reasonable" to many of the county citizens if they hadn't done that. Now they seem to be trying to bully the county into doing what they want. Environmentally friendly or not, that doesn't sit well with many of the citizens of the county.
To your point about how the storm water can be mitigated, you are correct only in that there are many, many ways the storm water can be mitigated and include a trail. The county has come up with one way that exceeds current standards in this state. Yours is just one of many.
To reflect back to you on your comment: I'm not sure what you are doing here. Is your point that the tribe-business is always environmentally friendly? And therefore what they're CURRENTLY requesting (because they have been a longterm partner on this project and could've asked a hella lot sooner) is environmentally "more than reasonable"? More reasonable than what? More reasonable than what is already being planned by the county? Sure. There's always a better plan coming from some "environmental" expert somewhere. But better for whom and better how? Cost? Environment? Time? Project Objectives? For the community as a whole? The river will continue to flow despite Towne Road being completed. It might not continue to flow from other influences that have been exposed during this process. Towne Road completion will do no more damage to (and likely significantly LESS damage to) the salmon and the river than what the tribe-business does and what the "farming" next door to the river already does. I'm no environmental expert but it seems pretty darn obvious.... and yet these are the entities blocking the re-opening of Towne Road. Makes me scratch my head.
Many of us have seen, locally, the environmental effects of the tribe-business in many areas, as John Worthington has pointed out.
Bravo, bingo, winner!
Jeff got the what for from an out of town environmental journalist.. That's rich.
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"The bottom line, from what I have read in your article, is that the Tribe has been requesting a plan for stormwater management of that new road that has yet to be provided to them by the County. So, why isn't the county providing a plan? "
Why doesn't 101 at jimmycomelately and Dungeness have stormwater. Why are those areas with way more traffic exempt ? How do casino properties become exempt/ What Dungeness doesn't have a casino, sell gas smokes, alcohol tax free to buy politicos from Democratic party..how else do 250 non taxpayers get such sway.
"I happen to know for fact that what the tribe is asking for is environmentally more than reasonable."
OK , where is their stormwater project for Jimmycomelately? and Dungeness crosssing.. If its "reasonable" why not do the roads with the most traffic? All that for a road they say nobody needs or travels on????
"emotional selfishness and ignorance of environmental protection mitigation efforts on behalf of wildlife in and off raparian habitats. "
The tribe is no environmental savior. Environmental saviors disclose how many oysters they harvest to know if the migratory birds were starved of food and sought an easy replacement with salmon swimming in shallow tributaries the tribes know better not to have on Jimmycomelately and Elwha. We are supposed to take your word? For all we know you take that we live and work on tribal land oath. I grew up with tribal members. After 40 years of 60 grand a year pulling fish out of a river..I just don't feel sorry for them like I used to. That's 1 guy two . four million dollars. Hemi 4x4 ,30 ft boat, 500 horse engine, 90 foot net...Sorry. There is no more reckoning or reparations required for them anymore. Now they flood the Dungeness using policy they themselves do not use. Sorry your upset I dont keep buying the window dressing and greenwashing.
Thank you, again, Mr. Worthington.