Thank you for the report. A 6" curb sounds like a bad idea but opposing it would just play into Ozias's delay agenda. Sounds like it's time to send another note of encouragement to Commissioners Johnson and French.
It is looking like I may owe you lunch, Jeff! But you know what they say: it ain’t over till the fat lady sings. The Tribe/Ozias still have a few months to sabotage complete restoration of the road. But I’m hoping lunch is on me!
We aren't outta the woods yet, but it is getting harder to stop every step we go forward. Just to clarify, can I super-size the value meal when you buy???
Wow, how can I cram 3+hours of commenting onto this page? Were there records set today recreating Hoover Dam, oh I meant Towne Road levee? Most awards are engineering for creation, design and construction of a road on a levee, great it’s a well built levee. Salmon are not going to swim up the river in a wetland area, they require water FLOW to swim upstream. Salmon don’t spawn until August waiting in the Dungeness Bay. The wetlands will get water when the river overflows its bank otherwise it will be a mosquito breeding ground & salmon will not benefit unless bugs wash out to the bay & the lower Dungeness River. Salmon are in low numbers because of tribal net fishing boats and crabbing can’t be regulated by numbers either. Once the water flow decreases & temps rise in summer fish will remain in the bay. Are fishery’s releasing enough fish? Look around are the rivers remaining intact, one large main flow, or are there many smaller tributaries being created by the tribe that reduce the main water flow making it harder for fish on the Dungeness? Jeff nailed todays meeting, the players who want to go with the flow and the two who didn’t, so typical. I can’t say I’ve ever witnessed such a show of determination (nice word) to continue on with the patience of the zoom & board room audience, expert presentation attendees, facts and numbers, and statements of position by one County Commissioner EVER! But I had never seen a wife of a Commissioner admonish taxpayers and comment about how wonderful her hard working husband is either. All I can say is today was another first, and I hope it’s the last. The other Commissioners stood their ground against the Godfather II brouhaha, however a swift moderation was definitely past due.
That was the plan for sure……in addition to the last year+++++ because Towne Road doesn’t serve where he lives, recreates, or visits. It’s about me not thee.
Another excellent summary, Jeff. Thank you. I watched the entire work session and was appalled by Ozias's blatant, desperate, and pathetic attempt to yet again derail the completion of Towne Road. His intense questioning and scrutinizing of the work of experts is uncalled for, even when repeatedly couched in the phrasing of "help me understand"; wanting something in writing from the fire chief, as though his in-person testimony during the meeting is not good enough. Really?
The only other option is to turn around and run downhill... and it's not much of a battle when we are only taking pot-shots over our shoulders as we are herded down the hill.
The consequences are too important to ignore. It's about much more than a levee, a road and some fish! Maybe the globalists are right...95% reduction in human population? Glad I'm older...hope I don't have to reincarnate into this drama again!
John, I have some extra tin foil if you ever need it. Dear god! WHAT would a person think was going on if not for the conspiracy theories! Thank you for backing Jeff up in this endeavor to bring accountability and transparency to an area of our government that apparently hasn’t seen any in a while. My offer of cooking and floor mopping are still on, if anything my family and I can do to help you run for an office where you can make a difference.
By "relocate" did Cheryl Baumann mean imminent domain? That was a very scary statement that she publicly made. Applause to you, Jeff, for staying awake thru Ozias' grandstanding and narcissistic diatribe to bring us this short and simple synopsis! Good luck today.
Yes, the 'greater good'. That's what communists call it as they destroy a culture to 'build back better'...to remake society in their image and likeness. Where have I heard the phrase 'created in their image and likeness'? Good thing I am not my body. 🤓
Keep searching, that is why we have an inquiring mind. Fear not.
Meaning... deny fear has a place in your heart and mind...we were created (or came into being) to explore and experience many things. We all find our way out of the maze eventually...it's a blessing when we can encourage and help each other along the way...glad you responded.🙂
PAVE TO SAVE LIVES! I can't join this morning but will have that up on my Zoom. DLTA and the propogandists are planning to "gather" their group outside the courthouse and "march in" together. It would be hysterical to have more of Towne Road supporters intermingle in that group and step up at the Public Speaking time. Or have every other seat occupied so they have to disperse.
They were all wearing "ROAD" signs around their necks with a big "Ghostbuster" crossed-out circle through it. Quite few of them (50 or so?) and they walked in at 10:00 and the last ones had to stand because we ran out of seats. Early bird gets the worm.
Did I have Cheryl Baumann pegged or what. I always knew what she wanted to do. She finally admitted what she wanted to do. De Niro didn't even have to pull a doll out of a bag in front of a parole board. Why don't we buy out Elwha and Jimmycomelately too, if a person was going to be fair. She gave a visual aide on why the policy on the three rivers are not fair.
She has to go. A person like that can't be involved in government.
Bingo, Deborah!...maybe it's a lost cause but we can still choose to follow our consciences and do our best however insignificant it may be. We still have to live with ourselves no matter which way the poor Dungeness flows. As a former hydro-tech with the Forest Service many years ago, I can affirm that what they are doing to modify the Dungeness for habitat enhancement is a complete waste of resources.
The river is carrying material down into the channel(s) WAY faster than it is carrying anything out to sea.
Just look downstream from the Railroad Bridge and you can see the convex shape of the river bed/channel(s).
When controlled gravel harvesting was allowed in the river... that made sense, as it created more pools and habitat and relieved the pressure of the buildup of materials over time. The river hasn't been flushing it's channel of larger material since the end of the last ice age and then it was spread out in great deluges when ice dams would break and distribute boulders and cobbles outside the main river channel. The Dungeness is a naturally degrading fish habitat and all the remediation the powers that be are doing will not only fail but cause unwanted unintended consequences. Common sense is gone and replaced by idiocracy and arrogance. End of Empire.🫣
Great reporting Jeff.......Wonder why the PA Newspaper doesn't spend more time reporting on this. Guess the advertising dollars from 7 Cedars helps keep them running the McClatchy rag.....
Went to the work session today. I have to say the DLTA group has some nice people, but they also have a couple that are incredibly RUDE! One next to me decided it was okay to laugh at comments one of the pro Towne Road re-opening commenter was making. The last one called out Jeff by name even though the guidelines quoted at the start of public comment time stated they should be directed at the commissioners. PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE!
Only Ozias was physically there (Randy was on zoom). I think Ozias' watch must be broken given his time keepingfor the trail only commenters. I'll have to calibrate my watch with his when the video comes out. I did tell the laughing woman she was being rude (no apology from her).
After the meeting in a conversation with a lovely woman from DLTA, I did ask why they were so concerned with traffic there but blind to the fact that it was a road with aggie vehicles that are known for terrible CO2 emissions and compression of soil. She said she would ask Mr. Eberle what he does to mitigate those issues. I appreciate that, but wish I'd had time to point out the water pollution issues with pig farms too.
Looking at some past comments from last week, it suddenly occurred to me highly coincidental that one person brought up tagging (graffiti vandalism) at the old oyster house in 3 crabs and how the county wouldn't repaint it. The coincidence is that the restrooms at The Landing county park on Marine Drive also suffered a lot of vandalism. Seems like someone is committing a lot of vandalism in areas that are known to be pro- Towne Road re-opening. The Landing issue was disturbing because one urban area I lived in had a resident who was constantly cleaning graffiti because of the data showing letting graffiti stand often preceded gang trouble in a neighborhood.
I intend to write a note to the commissioners about bad behavior at the public comments today and my disappointment in the moderator letting those items pass by. (and once I can validate the broken watch theory suggesting he get or borrow a new watch).
Hi Mary, I'm kicking myself for not seeking you out to say "hello." Thank you for attending today... I'm pleased to see people interested in local government no matter what platform they are advocating. If you hear of a work party to remove graffiti down there please let me know.
Thank you, kindly, Mary Bain, for insisting on accountability. My husband and another family person own and operate a outdoor cleaning business. We quit cleaning off graffiti after being warned that gang related tagging can get a person removing it killed. I am so saddened about it being now at the Park we love.
Thank you, A. Johnson. I just read your post and reread my post and need to correct imminent to eminent. Ozias wears the mask of ignorance to disguise his antipathy for his constituents.
Thank you for the report. A 6" curb sounds like a bad idea but opposing it would just play into Ozias's delay agenda. Sounds like it's time to send another note of encouragement to Commissioners Johnson and French.
It is looking like I may owe you lunch, Jeff! But you know what they say: it ain’t over till the fat lady sings. The Tribe/Ozias still have a few months to sabotage complete restoration of the road. But I’m hoping lunch is on me!
We aren't outta the woods yet, but it is getting harder to stop every step we go forward. Just to clarify, can I super-size the value meal when you buy???
Wow, how can I cram 3+hours of commenting onto this page? Were there records set today recreating Hoover Dam, oh I meant Towne Road levee? Most awards are engineering for creation, design and construction of a road on a levee, great it’s a well built levee. Salmon are not going to swim up the river in a wetland area, they require water FLOW to swim upstream. Salmon don’t spawn until August waiting in the Dungeness Bay. The wetlands will get water when the river overflows its bank otherwise it will be a mosquito breeding ground & salmon will not benefit unless bugs wash out to the bay & the lower Dungeness River. Salmon are in low numbers because of tribal net fishing boats and crabbing can’t be regulated by numbers either. Once the water flow decreases & temps rise in summer fish will remain in the bay. Are fishery’s releasing enough fish? Look around are the rivers remaining intact, one large main flow, or are there many smaller tributaries being created by the tribe that reduce the main water flow making it harder for fish on the Dungeness? Jeff nailed todays meeting, the players who want to go with the flow and the two who didn’t, so typical. I can’t say I’ve ever witnessed such a show of determination (nice word) to continue on with the patience of the zoom & board room audience, expert presentation attendees, facts and numbers, and statements of position by one County Commissioner EVER! But I had never seen a wife of a Commissioner admonish taxpayers and comment about how wonderful her hard working husband is either. All I can say is today was another first, and I hope it’s the last. The other Commissioners stood their ground against the Godfather II brouhaha, however a swift moderation was definitely past due.
Well said, thank you.
Boom! Excellent close to your editorial.
I simply could not sit through a meeting like that. So much kerfluffle and I’ll say it again; malfeasance.
Thanks Jeff.
I want 3 hours of my life back.
That was the plan for sure……in addition to the last year+++++ because Towne Road doesn’t serve where he lives, recreates, or visits. It’s about me not thee.
I can't believe you made it all 3 hours Pepai.
Godfather III
keep up the good work, thank you
You are welcome, Connie. Quite a wild ride we are all on.
Another excellent summary, Jeff. Thank you. I watched the entire work session and was appalled by Ozias's blatant, desperate, and pathetic attempt to yet again derail the completion of Towne Road. His intense questioning and scrutinizing of the work of experts is uncalled for, even when repeatedly couched in the phrasing of "help me understand"; wanting something in writing from the fire chief, as though his in-person testimony during the meeting is not good enough. Really?
Somehow I don't think you will be on Ozias' Christmas card list, Jeff --- and that's a good thing!!
Well done - !!!!
Ozias needs to be recalled. Maybe he should consider running as a Tribal Commissioner instead of a County Commissioner.
It seems the only battles this group likes are uphill ones...
The only other option is to turn around and run downhill... and it's not much of a battle when we are only taking pot-shots over our shoulders as we are herded down the hill.
The consequences are too important to ignore. It's about much more than a levee, a road and some fish! Maybe the globalists are right...95% reduction in human population? Glad I'm older...hope I don't have to reincarnate into this drama again!
Thanks for the excellent summary. Really appreciate and support what you are doing.
You've very welcome, Christopher. Thanks for reading along.
Next up. The GMA attack. They laid the groundwork for that today. I can't wait. There is an element they will not beat.
Remind me what GMA is...
Growth Management Act.
The Comprehensive plan has huge elements the counties and cities did not follow.
You are too patient with me... thank you.
You are calmer than I am and without you and this website I would be a cry in the wilderness, being fitted for tinfoil.
John, I have some extra tin foil if you ever need it. Dear god! WHAT would a person think was going on if not for the conspiracy theories! Thank you for backing Jeff up in this endeavor to bring accountability and transparency to an area of our government that apparently hasn’t seen any in a while. My offer of cooking and floor mopping are still on, if anything my family and I can do to help you run for an office where you can make a difference.
This tinfoil is starting to chafe after a few days. We use it as underwear, right?
By "relocate" did Cheryl Baumann mean imminent domain? That was a very scary statement that she publicly made. Applause to you, Jeff, for staying awake thru Ozias' grandstanding and narcissistic diatribe to bring us this short and simple synopsis! Good luck today.
I don't know... it was just a little comment she sprinkled in there. I was shocked she said it.
If I owned property out there I would be very concerned.
Yes, the 'greater good'. That's what communists call it as they destroy a culture to 'build back better'...to remake society in their image and likeness. Where have I heard the phrase 'created in their image and likeness'? Good thing I am not my body. 🤓
Perhaps someone autographing the bible?
Keep searching, that is why we have an inquiring mind. Fear not.
Meaning... deny fear has a place in your heart and mind...we were created (or came into being) to explore and experience many things. We all find our way out of the maze eventually...it's a blessing when we can encourage and help each other along the way...glad you responded.🙂
Salt water intrusion on our well or wave action erosion on the driveway? Not in this century. Drought and 90 degree summers will likely come first.
PAVE TO SAVE LIVES! I can't join this morning but will have that up on my Zoom. DLTA and the propogandists are planning to "gather" their group outside the courthouse and "march in" together. It would be hysterical to have more of Towne Road supporters intermingle in that group and step up at the Public Speaking time. Or have every other seat occupied so they have to disperse.
They were all wearing "ROAD" signs around their necks with a big "Ghostbuster" crossed-out circle through it. Quite few of them (50 or so?) and they walked in at 10:00 and the last ones had to stand because we ran out of seats. Early bird gets the worm.
Did I have Cheryl Baumann pegged or what. I always knew what she wanted to do. She finally admitted what she wanted to do. De Niro didn't even have to pull a doll out of a bag in front of a parole board. Why don't we buy out Elwha and Jimmycomelately too, if a person was going to be fair. She gave a visual aide on why the policy on the three rivers are not fair.
She has to go. A person like that can't be involved in government.
It won’t matter if she stays or goes. The agenda is exactly what you’ve outlined. She is one of many. This is a taking.
Bingo, Deborah!...maybe it's a lost cause but we can still choose to follow our consciences and do our best however insignificant it may be. We still have to live with ourselves no matter which way the poor Dungeness flows. As a former hydro-tech with the Forest Service many years ago, I can affirm that what they are doing to modify the Dungeness for habitat enhancement is a complete waste of resources.
The river is carrying material down into the channel(s) WAY faster than it is carrying anything out to sea.
Just look downstream from the Railroad Bridge and you can see the convex shape of the river bed/channel(s).
When controlled gravel harvesting was allowed in the river... that made sense, as it created more pools and habitat and relieved the pressure of the buildup of materials over time. The river hasn't been flushing it's channel of larger material since the end of the last ice age and then it was spread out in great deluges when ice dams would break and distribute boulders and cobbles outside the main river channel. The Dungeness is a naturally degrading fish habitat and all the remediation the powers that be are doing will not only fail but cause unwanted unintended consequences. Common sense is gone and replaced by idiocracy and arrogance. End of Empire.🫣
Sir, this is happening all over this beautiful land of ours.
It seems that when anyone thinks they have the right ideas on 'fixing' things they go to pot!
Great reporting Jeff.......Wonder why the PA Newspaper doesn't spend more time reporting on this. Guess the advertising dollars from 7 Cedars helps keep them running the McClatchy rag.....
I believe he was commissioner and also serving on some Dungeness River Management group that suggested it. But he recused himself :)
Went to the work session today. I have to say the DLTA group has some nice people, but they also have a couple that are incredibly RUDE! One next to me decided it was okay to laugh at comments one of the pro Towne Road re-opening commenter was making. The last one called out Jeff by name even though the guidelines quoted at the start of public comment time stated they should be directed at the commissioners. PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE!
Only Ozias was physically there (Randy was on zoom). I think Ozias' watch must be broken given his time keepingfor the trail only commenters. I'll have to calibrate my watch with his when the video comes out. I did tell the laughing woman she was being rude (no apology from her).
After the meeting in a conversation with a lovely woman from DLTA, I did ask why they were so concerned with traffic there but blind to the fact that it was a road with aggie vehicles that are known for terrible CO2 emissions and compression of soil. She said she would ask Mr. Eberle what he does to mitigate those issues. I appreciate that, but wish I'd had time to point out the water pollution issues with pig farms too.
Looking at some past comments from last week, it suddenly occurred to me highly coincidental that one person brought up tagging (graffiti vandalism) at the old oyster house in 3 crabs and how the county wouldn't repaint it. The coincidence is that the restrooms at The Landing county park on Marine Drive also suffered a lot of vandalism. Seems like someone is committing a lot of vandalism in areas that are known to be pro- Towne Road re-opening. The Landing issue was disturbing because one urban area I lived in had a resident who was constantly cleaning graffiti because of the data showing letting graffiti stand often preceded gang trouble in a neighborhood.
I intend to write a note to the commissioners about bad behavior at the public comments today and my disappointment in the moderator letting those items pass by. (and once I can validate the broken watch theory suggesting he get or borrow a new watch).
Hi Mary, I'm kicking myself for not seeking you out to say "hello." Thank you for attending today... I'm pleased to see people interested in local government no matter what platform they are advocating. If you hear of a work party to remove graffiti down there please let me know.
Thank you, kindly, Mary Bain, for insisting on accountability. My husband and another family person own and operate a outdoor cleaning business. We quit cleaning off graffiti after being warned that gang related tagging can get a person removing it killed. I am so saddened about it being now at the Park we love.
Thank you, A. Johnson. I just read your post and reread my post and need to correct imminent to eminent. Ozias wears the mask of ignorance to disguise his antipathy for his constituents.