I'm completely amazed that the Taxpayer's have to spend 1/3 of a Million Dollars to just study the problem for two years! It borders on criminal behavior. TlI believe that the Army Corp of Engineers could review, analyze and fix the issue in a year. The Public should not tolerate such incompetence from our elected officials!
"County has now applied for a $360,529 FEMA grant to study the flooding problem..."
Hey, let's get together, grab a beer, study the problem. We got $400k to spend. Partytime! Call Ozzzzzzias, we'll put him on the study board, drop him a few favors...
WAIT! Give Mr Hilderman $1 for the study then use the f.. money to raise the road!
I haven't been able to climb up on the windmill naked or otherwise since 1995. I don't know how they do it. Its so strong now you feel like the cast of young guns taking peyote.
Besides the substance abuse clinics, the tribe also runs Alcohol, Gamble, Drug Anonymous groups. I consider that a conflict of interest...so I guess, build it advertise it and they will come in the front and back doors.
Well, weed revenue goes to schools, just like the lottery money goes to schools, money from timber sales go to schools, our tax dollars go to schools...
It's fine if people alter their consciousnesses...we all do it by various means but I'm pointing out the probable reality that these 'psycho' agents are making up their plans for the rest of us under the influence of mind-altering substances and then shoving their altered realities on the rest of us.
They are already mind-altered by the NWO agendas they have been programmed with...it's an (them vs us) thing. They are the grand wizards and the rest of us are the ignorant peons.
It could happen to anyone...I'm grateful I wasn't programmed by the deep-state more than I have been...however once the understanding is in place about how we have been coerced and lied to...then what?
The entire system is and has been rigged while we were going about our lives.
The real disadvantage we have is that it is a full-time passion for them (which we pay for) and the resources of time, energy and monies required to check-mate them is A LOT.
Collectively we do have the power but getting it organized and focused is a real challenge and it is our handicap.
That's why the preamble to The Constitution acknowledges that 'Men are prone to suffer evils as long as they are sufferable.'
This is why we always end up in violent conflicts and/or abject slavery.
The evil is a full-time operation and a very old story for humanity.
This is why we turn to some kind of religion (re-binding)(to something) to deal with the reality.
We have the potential to re-imagine a better world (they have...in THEIR own image) but it takes a lot of pressure to focus us on the new reality (as we desire it to be). Seeing what's so and keeping a firm focus on what we want, instead of what we have is a significant task.
This is where we have an opportunity to go beyond our programming and turn our upset, anger, etc. into a positive force for positive change.
I'm not very good at it... and our household vacillates between outrage, despair and re-focusing on what we really want.
I must confess that I could not find that quote in the Preamble or US Constitution. There is a very similar one in the Declaration of Independance. I would say it was an honest mistake.
It seems there's a similarity in language public officials like to use in order to get public support.
As for 3 Crabs...reduce flooding, when it clearly has not.
As for the Sequim School District measures...it'll only cost XX dollars, when it'll cost likely double.
As for the Dungeness off-channel reservoir project...it'll recharge aquafirs, but now that language has been stricken from their website. It gave the false impression that anyone with a well would benefit but after public pressure the language, when referenced, is being applied to some nebulous point in time in the future and the aquafirs benefitting are the City of Sequim's.
Thanks Jeff and poster's for this enlightening conversation. I am very interested in learning the history of this area. I have only resided here since 2006, and even in that short time have watched land grab by the State and Tribes. I am witnessing projects destroy natural habitat, and then rebuilding it in an attempt to do a better job than Mother Nature. Much of this appears to be an attempt by one Sovereign Nation to expand their realm. Paper salmon comes to mind.
They are sacrificing salmon spawning for the "McGlothlin."
They need an injunction next week. April showers will bring their powers.
That is a fast moving river. That water comes blasting down Grey Wolf. Pair that flow and grade with salmon hotel logs and you have a bed scour machine.
They need to cascade it, baffle it, slow it down, and build those same deep meandering fixed coils they have on Jimmycomelately. Get rid of the salmon hotel logs and let the river break down logs way upstream.
Your picture with two red circles shows the problem. That is like building a sink and leaving the water running. Eventually, the sink builds up. Where does it go. The poor sons a bitches in the Three Crabs community. Their estuary to the east is way too small and the river is blocking the water west. They have them teed up for April.
I am the Bishop of Battle, master of all I survey in Clallam County. I have 13 progressively harder levels. Try me if you dare... bring your stage names online or in person like Lonesome Rhodes at the town cracker barrel. I take on all comers. Insert coin. :)
They are criminals cutting a ribbon. The Three Crabs Community deserved equal protection. The Jamestown Tribe should never have been involved. Since they were they failed to extend the same river management policy they and everybody else signed off on at the Jimmycomelately project. One river's properties were protected and the other one wasn't. Why they have not sued already is a mystery. Are they waiting for a buy out..... ask old Man McGlothlin (Longhouse property) how his buyout worked under threat of flood. They are using the same despicable move they did on McGlothlin on the Dungeness Community. I want a federal badge.
Sure they knew the science. They had to create a brand new science to keep tribal properties on the Elwha and Jimmycomelately safe. Then another for McGlothlin syndrome.
They negotiated with him, under a scenario they knew they were going to and did change. Sure he "gave" it up, but they never told him they were going to totally relocate the river where it had never been, so they could use the longhouse location for retail when he could do nothing on the corner retail wise. In fact, they didn't let any non -native that was not grandfathered in do anything. You sell a retail location for millions of dollars. Before the relocation, the river or creek came strait down the edge of McGlothlin's property, and crossed 101 there at the longhouse location during the 2002 flood. This is not tinfoil. Its what happened and I can prove it.
So, from what I understand, the tribe could buy out homes/land in the 3 Crabs area then turn around and somehow possibly alter the waterways (like they did to the McGlothlin property) to their advantage, increasing the value of the homes/land for tribal profit?
So the Eye of Sauron is presently concentrated on the 3 Crab Area? Get ready, it may be sweeping its gaze in lands near and dear to anyone in Sequim and Port Angeles and nearby counties.
Its the whole run. Salmon hotel logs are piled up everywhere, hoping a re-channeling is forced. Ancestral here we come. There's only 600 but they ride like 1000...with the Feds, State, Port Angeles, Sequim, Clallam County and Kilmer helping them.
They might be up against a powerful consortium of homeowners suing them. There is NO good reason to condemn. Hurricanes hitting Florida, anyone closing down their coastline? Tornadoes in the midwest, clear it out? I don't think so...
John, you talk about this almost weekly during your public comments. No doubt you have helped the 3 Crabs residents, along with Jeff's comments, get something going. Can the insurance companies get involved to expedite the study process, or file a lawsuit against all those entities involved?
They can put a claim on the County Commissioners bond, but that's a game in the state judicial sandbox. The same sandbox that brought us the Dungeness water rule.
Its going to take an injunction from a federal court under the equal protection clause. A federal question jurisdiction, grant fraud, Rico Act, takings clause etc.
Or "our group" could picket the new administration.
The key is to lay out the evidence and see who wants to keep playing buyout chicken or face condemnation and the below market value suggested by SERN.
FEMA grant? Seriousely? What are they gonna put down for cause? Climate change? Hopefully a more streamlined FEMA will call their bluff. Dont think being stupid is on any of the check boxes on the aplication. I feel for the people on 3 Crabs. But I have to wonder who they voted for.
It appears the Clallam County Conservation District (anyone heard of them?) had something to say about this in 2006.
Page 1, Flooding:
"Property damage that has resulted from flooding in this area has been relatively minor, and limited mainly to landscaping. Only one residence is known to have been flooded when tidal water flowed up Meadowbrook Creek during an extreme high tide event in 2006. Subsequent flooding of Three Crabs Road has been infrequent and of very short duration. The main public health and safety concern with the flooding is associated with on-site septic system function and well contamination. (Wells provide all of the potable water in the study area.)"
What worthless and corrupt county officials! A REAL county would immediately raise the road-- priority #1. Instead, Clallam County gives priority for luxury apartments for drug addicts.
Hey Oziass, everyone on 3 Crabs is an LGBTQRSYZ Black Hamas drug addict and needs your help.
$400,000 would be more than enough to just raise the f'in road!
The level of insanity and incompetence of gov't is staggering.
3-Crabs will most likely be reclaimed by the sea naturally anyway...but these folks deserve better than this shit-fest.
Either the engineers were incompetent OR their plans were intentionally altered to CAUSE problems to force removal of the structures...condemnation of the land, eminent domain seizure for below market value, etc.
Any functioning adult can see there is a VERY serious problem with our 'governance'.
I have purported before that government IS mind control!
See it in action...then we all need to take action...these thieves and communists need to be removed ASAP!
Not waiting and hoping they will do what's right by the people...they have made it abundantly clear the directives from the u.n. agenda 21 and control through NGO'S/NPO'S are where they serve...not us!
3-Crabs road should be raised the appropriate amount and other reasonable mitigation to minimize damage and loss should and could be undertaken immediately...not more studying and grants...then let nature take it's course (with some alterations) to protect the homes in the short/medium term...long term...well that's kind of obvious.😊
I mean they can explain how its a bitter pill for the Dungeness beach front and waterfront property owners, but a bottle cracking celebration over a waterfront tribal library and all the development in Blyn over historic channels.
I'm completely amazed that the Taxpayer's have to spend 1/3 of a Million Dollars to just study the problem for two years! It borders on criminal behavior. TlI believe that the Army Corp of Engineers could review, analyze and fix the issue in a year. The Public should not tolerate such incompetence from our elected officials!
"County has now applied for a $360,529 FEMA grant to study the flooding problem..."
Hey, let's get together, grab a beer, study the problem. We got $400k to spend. Partytime! Call Ozzzzzzias, we'll put him on the study board, drop him a few favors...
WAIT! Give Mr Hilderman $1 for the study then use the f.. money to raise the road!
Don't forget the high-potency weed...you know...for creative inspiration!
Stoner commies running our gov't...what could go wrong?😱
I haven't been able to climb up on the windmill naked or otherwise since 1995. I don't know how they do it. Its so strong now you feel like the cast of young guns taking peyote.
Besides the substance abuse clinics, the tribe also runs Alcohol, Gamble, Drug Anonymous groups. I consider that a conflict of interest...so I guess, build it advertise it and they will come in the front and back doors.
Enough to take over the whole darn colonization..
Well, weed revenue goes to schools, just like the lottery money goes to schools, money from timber sales go to schools, our tax dollars go to schools...
I think I'm seeing the problem.
With Zero transparency and accountability.
It's fine if people alter their consciousnesses...we all do it by various means but I'm pointing out the probable reality that these 'psycho' agents are making up their plans for the rest of us under the influence of mind-altering substances and then shoving their altered realities on the rest of us.
They are already mind-altered by the NWO agendas they have been programmed with...it's an (them vs us) thing. They are the grand wizards and the rest of us are the ignorant peons.
It could happen to anyone...I'm grateful I wasn't programmed by the deep-state more than I have been...however once the understanding is in place about how we have been coerced and lied to...then what?
The entire system is and has been rigged while we were going about our lives.
The real disadvantage we have is that it is a full-time passion for them (which we pay for) and the resources of time, energy and monies required to check-mate them is A LOT.
Collectively we do have the power but getting it organized and focused is a real challenge and it is our handicap.
That's why the preamble to The Constitution acknowledges that 'Men are prone to suffer evils as long as they are sufferable.'
This is why we always end up in violent conflicts and/or abject slavery.
The evil is a full-time operation and a very old story for humanity.
This is why we turn to some kind of religion (re-binding)(to something) to deal with the reality.
We have the potential to re-imagine a better world (they have...in THEIR own image) but it takes a lot of pressure to focus us on the new reality (as we desire it to be). Seeing what's so and keeping a firm focus on what we want, instead of what we have is a significant task.
This is where we have an opportunity to go beyond our programming and turn our upset, anger, etc. into a positive force for positive change.
I'm not very good at it... and our household vacillates between outrage, despair and re-focusing on what we really want.
So it is.😎
What constitution contains that phrase?
Read carefully, not the Constitution(of the USA) but the Preamble!
Can’t find that particular phrase in the US constitution preamble so I’ll assume that’s your interpretation.
I must confess that I could not find that quote in the Preamble or US Constitution. There is a very similar one in the Declaration of Independance. I would say it was an honest mistake.
Yes, an honest mistake. Thanks Leo.😎
Give me 20 minutes and a white board and I will show that community all the evidence it needs to prove they are being intentionally flooded out.
Sounds like that would make a good article.
Or good tin foil. :)
Why do we need a study. What a waste of time and money. Raise the road, build a burn. Finish the job correctly for the sake of the home owners.
It seems there's a similarity in language public officials like to use in order to get public support.
As for 3 Crabs...reduce flooding, when it clearly has not.
As for the Sequim School District measures...it'll only cost XX dollars, when it'll cost likely double.
As for the Dungeness off-channel reservoir project...it'll recharge aquafirs, but now that language has been stricken from their website. It gave the false impression that anyone with a well would benefit but after public pressure the language, when referenced, is being applied to some nebulous point in time in the future and the aquafirs benefitting are the City of Sequim's.
And don't forget:
"It's for the salmon."
"It's for the children."
"It's for the kitties and puppies."
"It's for the unhoused."
"It's for the Tribe"
Thanks Jeff and poster's for this enlightening conversation. I am very interested in learning the history of this area. I have only resided here since 2006, and even in that short time have watched land grab by the State and Tribes. I am witnessing projects destroy natural habitat, and then rebuilding it in an attempt to do a better job than Mother Nature. Much of this appears to be an attempt by one Sovereign Nation to expand their realm. Paper salmon comes to mind.
Keep after this. We are all impacted.
They are sacrificing salmon spawning for the "McGlothlin."
They need an injunction next week. April showers will bring their powers.
That is a fast moving river. That water comes blasting down Grey Wolf. Pair that flow and grade with salmon hotel logs and you have a bed scour machine.
They need to cascade it, baffle it, slow it down, and build those same deep meandering fixed coils they have on Jimmycomelately. Get rid of the salmon hotel logs and let the river break down logs way upstream.
Your picture with two red circles shows the problem. That is like building a sink and leaving the water running. Eventually, the sink builds up. Where does it go. The poor sons a bitches in the Three Crabs community. Their estuary to the east is way too small and the river is blocking the water west. They have them teed up for April.
Here’s $360.529 to your NGO John !
I am the Bishop of Battle, master of all I survey in Clallam County. I have 13 progressively harder levels. Try me if you dare... bring your stage names online or in person like Lonesome Rhodes at the town cracker barrel. I take on all comers. Insert coin. :)
I don't know what the 13 progressively harder levels mean?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086014/quotes/?item=qt0465188
Bad relationship sold separately..
Criminal activity!🧐
They are criminals cutting a ribbon. The Three Crabs Community deserved equal protection. The Jamestown Tribe should never have been involved. Since they were they failed to extend the same river management policy they and everybody else signed off on at the Jimmycomelately project. One river's properties were protected and the other one wasn't. Why they have not sued already is a mystery. Are they waiting for a buy out..... ask old Man McGlothlin (Longhouse property) how his buyout worked under threat of flood. They are using the same despicable move they did on McGlothlin on the Dungeness Community. I want a federal badge.
No no, some of those people cutting the ribbon believed "in the science".
That was back "in the day". When we all thought they'd deliver what they promised.
I can still hear Lizzie Phelps say, "...this won't end well..."
And true to her prediction, her house was a house boat for a day.
What was that Liz? "I told you so..."
Sure they knew the science. They had to create a brand new science to keep tribal properties on the Elwha and Jimmycomelately safe. Then another for McGlothlin syndrome.
John what happened with McGlothlin buyout?
They negotiated with him, under a scenario they knew they were going to and did change. Sure he "gave" it up, but they never told him they were going to totally relocate the river where it had never been, so they could use the longhouse location for retail when he could do nothing on the corner retail wise. In fact, they didn't let any non -native that was not grandfathered in do anything. You sell a retail location for millions of dollars. Before the relocation, the river or creek came strait down the edge of McGlothlin's property, and crossed 101 there at the longhouse location during the 2002 flood. This is not tinfoil. Its what happened and I can prove it.
So, from what I understand, the tribe could buy out homes/land in the 3 Crabs area then turn around and somehow possibly alter the waterways (like they did to the McGlothlin property) to their advantage, increasing the value of the homes/land for tribal profit?
They are even more ruthless than they were to McGlothlin. They are going for condemnation...SERN has already set the asking price..
So the Eye of Sauron is presently concentrated on the 3 Crab Area? Get ready, it may be sweeping its gaze in lands near and dear to anyone in Sequim and Port Angeles and nearby counties.
Its the whole run. Salmon hotel logs are piled up everywhere, hoping a re-channeling is forced. Ancestral here we come. There's only 600 but they ride like 1000...with the Feds, State, Port Angeles, Sequim, Clallam County and Kilmer helping them.
Already is, has, will be!🤔
It is the "will be" that has to stop.
They might be up against a powerful consortium of homeowners suing them. There is NO good reason to condemn. Hurricanes hitting Florida, anyone closing down their coastline? Tornadoes in the midwest, clear it out? I don't think so...
The problem with suing is time and money, neither of which the homeowners will be able to outlast.
They don't know what evidence they have and how ruthless the people they are up against are.
They got the McGlothlin play book out and their running it play by play on the entire Dungeness.
I agree, the tribes 2016 plan of land acquisitions shows that the Dungeness area is on their map.
The word ancestral has come out of their mouths too many times to deny motive for the crime.
And the words, "self subsistence" as a motive to taking the lions share of water and fishing rights.
Well, their ancestors were savages...just like the rest of us!😎
BEST IDEA! Vote the Communisioners out of office!
Remove them by due process...recall...NOW!😜
John, you talk about this almost weekly during your public comments. No doubt you have helped the 3 Crabs residents, along with Jeff's comments, get something going. Can the insurance companies get involved to expedite the study process, or file a lawsuit against all those entities involved?
They can put a claim on the County Commissioners bond, but that's a game in the state judicial sandbox. The same sandbox that brought us the Dungeness water rule.
Its going to take an injunction from a federal court under the equal protection clause. A federal question jurisdiction, grant fraud, Rico Act, takings clause etc.
Or "our group" could picket the new administration.
The key is to lay out the evidence and see who wants to keep playing buyout chicken or face condemnation and the below market value suggested by SERN.
Thanks, John
FEMA grant? Seriousely? What are they gonna put down for cause? Climate change? Hopefully a more streamlined FEMA will call their bluff. Dont think being stupid is on any of the check boxes on the aplication. I feel for the people on 3 Crabs. But I have to wonder who they voted for.
Comment from Gary Butler...
"This is mind blowing to me.I lived on 3 crabs road from 1974 to 1989. We only had one king tide flood in 82 and it was nothing like this."
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/15uZgv2qsB/
It appears the Clallam County Conservation District (anyone heard of them?) had something to say about this in 2006.
Page 1, Flooding:
"Property damage that has resulted from flooding in this area has been relatively minor, and limited mainly to landscaping. Only one residence is known to have been flooded when tidal water flowed up Meadowbrook Creek during an extreme high tide event in 2006. Subsequent flooding of Three Crabs Road has been infrequent and of very short duration. The main public health and safety concern with the flooding is associated with on-site septic system function and well contamination. (Wells provide all of the potable water in the study area.)"
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://andrew-phay.squarespace.com/s/FINAL-3-CRABS-REPORT-vj2h.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwju0YLD9_2LAxWQATQIHfogChEQFnoECB4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2s96hVoHN1pNCfYncMVWcz
What worthless and corrupt county officials! A REAL county would immediately raise the road-- priority #1. Instead, Clallam County gives priority for luxury apartments for drug addicts.
Hey Oziass, everyone on 3 Crabs is an LGBTQRSYZ Black Hamas drug addict and needs your help.
$400,000 would be more than enough to just raise the f'in road!
The level of insanity and incompetence of gov't is staggering.
3-Crabs will most likely be reclaimed by the sea naturally anyway...but these folks deserve better than this shit-fest.
Either the engineers were incompetent OR their plans were intentionally altered to CAUSE problems to force removal of the structures...condemnation of the land, eminent domain seizure for below market value, etc.
Any functioning adult can see there is a VERY serious problem with our 'governance'.
I have purported before that government IS mind control!
See it in action...then we all need to take action...these thieves and communists need to be removed ASAP!
Not waiting and hoping they will do what's right by the people...they have made it abundantly clear the directives from the u.n. agenda 21 and control through NGO'S/NPO'S are where they serve...not us!
3-Crabs road should be raised the appropriate amount and other reasonable mitigation to minimize damage and loss should and could be undertaken immediately...not more studying and grants...then let nature take it's course (with some alterations) to protect the homes in the short/medium term...long term...well that's kind of obvious.😊
The new FEMA and USFW are coming. The mean bitter pill crowd will get their chance.
Yamamoto, "awaken the sleeping giant"
I mean they can explain how its a bitter pill for the Dungeness beach front and waterfront property owners, but a bottle cracking celebration over a waterfront tribal library and all the development in Blyn over historic channels.