Thanks Jeff, I find it amusing all the new found environmentalists who are so worried about the effects of a road meet at a barn that is 1 - not owned by the tenant Nash but owned by Washington Farmland Trust and 2 - has a conservation easement on it that has been in violation from its inception in 2002 and 3- has numerous environmental concerns, such as livestock in the wetlands on occasion, a massive garbage pile at the headwaters of Meadowbrook Creek and many seemingly abandoned vehicles and equipment, illegally placed fill and manure spraying onto bare ground over the years. Perhaps I should start a non-profit called Clean Up Delta, not to be confused with your clean up of DLTA.
That kind of puts the Washington Farmland Trust in the middle of a political movement... I wonder if they approved how their land is being used. You offer fascinating insight, Matt.
The other thing that I find so striking is that all these people that claim Towne Road isn't a good tsunami evacuation route live south of the blockage. I would very much like all my options open in case of a tsunami, thank you very much.
The Olympic Discovery Trail (ODT) is roughly 6-8 ft wide and paved. I’m struggling why paving 0.6 mile of ROAD isn’t agreeable to the Trails Advisory Committee? If I was on the TAC, I would be embarrassed to even be considering the Towne Road Levee a trail. It’s a road, it feels like a road, and is used as a road. Adding the trail component was to appease the trail users and that’s not good enough? Then forget the trail and just make it a road as originally planned.
Thank you, Jeff. You answered my question in the best way - TRUTHFULLY. Your dedication to the truth will lead you and all of Clallam County to victory. If the Eberle family continues to promote their wedding venue idea, do their neighbors understand the amount of noise pollution, litter, trash, speeding, DUIs, disturbing the peace (for animals, fowl, birds, and humans), and unsafe trail conditions this will cause for Towne Road? The DLTA group must read your post to understand what lies are skulking behind the facade. An organized charitable no-profit can be as deceitful as any government. You're the best, Jeff!!
All I had to do was read your well-written comment from the last article and see your reasonable questions, to know what CCWD should answer next. Thanks for being so engaged.
I know people that share a property boundary with the Eberles. While the parties were hosted, the music would run loud and late. A time or two, party goers trespassed onto private property and got a little....ahem...amorous(?) in the bushes. Litter and clothing articles were not uncommon after one of those. I'm wondering how they'd even manage party-going traffic on the levee road-as-a-trail with all those hundreds of walkers without running someone over.
(Rumor has it that at least one of the Eberles reads this substack. Mwhahahahaha. )
Excellently written and extremely informative! These same individuals play with truth and transparency on Nextdoor, while attacking Jeff for telling the truth and backing it up with documents...go figure!
As we delve further into this it will be interesting to see what the IRS has to say about a not for profit corporation commercially and privately benefitting from the Towne Road closure and subsequent taxpayer funded installation of gates. Hmmmm.
I get to rejoin general population tomorrow... Yes, please share and post or I can do it tomorrow. I always get more subscribers when you do it though :)
a SMALL group of people who want a road, isn’t that what has been repeatedly said during the 3 minute public comment period every week over and over by Derrick Eberly? When in reality it’s a tiny group of people who want to steal 20+Million $$$$$$$ of county tax dollars for a private driveway! YES YES YES. The advocacy circus show orchestrates with the tiny car that circles the ring several times, stops and 50 clowns get out, all the while the master ring leader coordinates the show, look over here, look over there look at how great the trail is and how bad a road is. The ring leader is the master, his position of influence directs the audience where to look, what to watch, and he can direct the whole show, SO HE MAY THINK? When the ring leader advocates to communicate outside the legal show this is what will happen.
An illegal taking of public property. They took a public street. They called law enforcement on opposition, they went after free speech, They asked the world what should we do with Towne Road, and they blocked video from public testimony. Entitlement and power is sexy don't ya think.
I went back to the beginning of this blog and read all the entries, and all the comments, since all of it was before I started following. What a read! I recommend every one do ir. Then I went to the beginning and read just your comments. I was seriously taken aback because I have been following National “takings” and land and water fights that sound so much like what you describe, and what the blog has been exposing. Many of the actions that have happened here concerning a certain Commissioner and a
public road have been happening all over. So much that it looks like a known blueprint or instructions on how to get what you want without public input or knowledge. I would advise anyone who is interested in what else may be found in with this road debacle read your comments. I wish I could say it better. Thank you for what you have contributed kon this blog.
Sorry folks but “phooey” to NextDoor... communist platform... life is messy and there are too many cogs in the wheel already! Badge of Honor 🏅🎖for you Jeff... for being TRANSPARENT....
Maybe we need to form PACBS-- People Against Communist Bullshit. Or, more positively PCS People for Common Sense.
First, if the Tribe wants a nature walk, WTF did they destroy the existing trail????? Have them restore the trail for the walkers.
Secondly, perhaps a class action lawsuit is in order if Ozias reneges on the road completion in a timely manner. I will contribute $1K to the effort if it becomes reality. Taxpayer money paid for the road, and no Socialists/Communists will stop it. The audacity of those people who object to both a road AND TRAIL, as planned amazes me. They likely came from the California that they ruined, and now want to do the same here. They should move to Seattle and be among like-minded folks.
Also did some research and there is a direct trail linking the U.N. + Agenda 21 + ICLEI + NODC+ Mark Ozias. Someone is lying. We are being manipulated from the top down making it look like it is grass roots. Clever.
That is how it is done. Every. Single. Time. This is happening country wide. I am looking at a law group that are able to address multiple issues. The hardest part will be picking one thing; there are so many violations of the law in this.
This would make sense considering all the UK flags and people who showed up right at the beginning of that war. Also I know of a ton of corruption in the community but you are right on point with this one
The Towne Road Levee was designed and built to accomodate a 30' ROADWAY. We could have saved 1/2 the money if it were only designed for a trail as a MUCH smaller structure could contain the river when necessary. DLTA needs to cough up about $11,000,000 to compensate the taxpayers who paid for a ROAD if they want it trail only. We WILL sue and if there is ANY justice left in the land, we WILL prevail!
This needs to end out of court and it needs to end soon. The Eberlie's and the Open Space mafia needs to accept that its a public road already paid for once and then paid for again to fix. They got selfish for the extra convenience of a closed road. I get it. They called the entire Hall of Open space League in on this for selfish reasons to keep it their very own elite "public" haven.. They showed who it is that is most likely among the Commissioners the one to meet anyone in the alley under the gas lamp. All in all I think they are all professionals and held up professionally during all of this. I myself could have been called for a technical foul or two. I think we have a wrong professional and two brave professionals.
The issue should have been resolved weeks ago. The Eberlie's should have spent their capital on making sure they had county ordinances to get permits to close of the streets for event like they do in Sequim. They could close the road temporarily on week ends and summer weeks they could hold gatherings during the weekdays. Instead, they went big and swung for the fences. They did us a favor. They exposed the week links in our government and brought good people together. We are behind on the issues. We need to solve Towne Road. I say this after filing two motions alleging the tribes broke the Point no Point treaty of 1855.
Thanks John. I also hope that legal action can be avoided. It is difficult to deal with obsessed persons in normal senses. I would like to see Ozias be recalled or resign for his subterfuge and attempted theft of public property. It is criminal activity now in plain sight. The arrogance and hubris of these folks is surreal. (Ozias+DTA, etc.)
The political sign needs to be reported to Ozias so he can immediately call for an investigation by the sheriff and his department. Reporting the illegal posting of the “Political” sign to Ozias can be done by writing to mark.ozias@clallamcountywa.gov and cc mike.french@clallamcountywa.gov and randy.johnson@clallamcountywa.gov. Please take action to protect our taxpayer money.
If I were going to pick someone to lead my merry band of thieves, it wouldn't be the Eberles. They are cementing their reputation of mis-truths (because it's not PC to say "lies" anymore), wild exaggerations and more.
On the one hand, this is anticlimactic. No surprise, really, except that a few of those people must not really know who they signed on with. Maybe the Eberles used their $2000 from the county to start the non-profit.
Reality will strike hard if the road is kept closed and then the lawsuits come flying. The ones against the county concern me and should concern all the taxpayers because the road will ultimately be opened and we'll also have to pay for the defense of the lawsuits that shouldn't have happened in the first place.
I walked the road yesterday. I think there is some clear confusion in the DLTA cult on what is getting paved. It's not the entire levee. It's a very small portion of the levee. People need to get educated.
I contemplated putting my garage sale signs up on the tax payer funded fence and gate.
If the road stays closed, the reality is:
There will be lawsuits filed against the county.
There will still be traffic on the levee portion of Towne Road. The Tribe, farm vehicles and personal vehicles of the privileged few. It will be worse than no road at all. Trailwalkers, bikers, runners need to be made aware of this. They will not be protected from this traffic that will be allowed to use the road anytime they want.
The Eberles get tax-funded private gates for their "inconvenience" that they created.
Emergency vehicles have to take an alternate route to reach people north of the closure OR be delayed by gates.
The traffic on Sequim-Dungeness and the feeder roads (such as Ward, Lotzgesell, etc) will continue to see a marked up tick just as they have since the closure of Towne Road. While people south of the blockage that live on or off Towne Road don't mind shifting the traffic to their neighbors, there are those of us that experience that increased traffic daily and really resent that.
I feel bad for the creamery business because I used to go there and do the nice drive, the loop. Now it’s one way in one way out, no nice drive anymore since the closure. I’d tell county tax payers to send their increased insurance bills to the great and powerful OZ and let him make up the difference and hold Commissioners responsible for any fatalities due to longer emergency response times. Lack of oxygen for longer periods of time can result in permanent brain damage. Would the great and powerful OZ want that for his loved ones?
Agree. I have not been to the creamery since the road closed. It adds an extra 5-10 minutes to get there and while I love their ice cream, I just can't justify it without having the nice drive there and back. Interestingly, I drive by The Game Farm, using Ward Road, and they still have a sign up at the entrance to one of their lanes ... "No Creamery Access. Use Towne Road."
I have not been to Nash's Farm Stand either. I won't spend another dime there after seeing how they have behaved in all this. The comment by the Mrs. that implied that because they no longer have a market on that side of Sequim-Dungeness, they don't need the road open and can freely support the closure, really did it for me. I know I'm not alone in that regard.
I agree Mr. Johnson. That and the way they have been treating their long time customers and workers. Plus that confrontation the Mrs. posted on ND and never bothered to reply to a very sincere apology from a long time neighbor and friend. I used to think I knew her. I was a customer for many years. I now know I am not important to her whatsoever.
I have a lot of friends who don’t live anywhere near here who would sign a petition to finish the road if I asked them to. I’m guessing many of you do, too. Should we start a petition to expose waste, fraud, and abuse of public infrastructure tax money? Will it carry weight with the elected officials? The DLTA petition has about a thousand signatures. I’m pretty sure we could exceed that if we wanted.
After the resolution in December where 3 commissioners committed to finishing the road this year, I thought we were done. Then Ozias started to back out of the promise, but it was still 2 against one, so we were in a good position. When Mike French told DLTA that if 50 of them came to a commissioner meeting that may get him to reconsider his promise, I was surprised. Randy Johnson seems committed to reopening the road this year due to safety concerns and rising costs. So, I guess that makes French a swing vote now and we need to find out what will determine his vote if it isn't the resolution he committed to. Is it 51 people coming to the courthouse? Is it one more signature than DLTA has? This has become a popularity contest, but we haven't been told the rules. Lynne, if you want to contact French and see what will persuade him to honor the resolution, 634 subscribers might be up for whatever he requests.
Thanks Jeff, I find it amusing all the new found environmentalists who are so worried about the effects of a road meet at a barn that is 1 - not owned by the tenant Nash but owned by Washington Farmland Trust and 2 - has a conservation easement on it that has been in violation from its inception in 2002 and 3- has numerous environmental concerns, such as livestock in the wetlands on occasion, a massive garbage pile at the headwaters of Meadowbrook Creek and many seemingly abandoned vehicles and equipment, illegally placed fill and manure spraying onto bare ground over the years. Perhaps I should start a non-profit called Clean Up Delta, not to be confused with your clean up of DLTA.
That kind of puts the Washington Farmland Trust in the middle of a political movement... I wonder if they approved how their land is being used. You offer fascinating insight, Matt.
Hmmmmm
Let me know if I can help.
Well said and I'm glad that bird is free.
The other thing that I find so striking is that all these people that claim Towne Road isn't a good tsunami evacuation route live south of the blockage. I would very much like all my options open in case of a tsunami, thank you very much.
AND - the thought that ONLY a local earthquake would cause the activation of a Tsunami warning........flat earthers are everywhere!
Sign me -
PESKY
Well Matt.... let that little birdy out of the cage... 😁
Fly little birdy fly!!
The Olympic Discovery Trail (ODT) is roughly 6-8 ft wide and paved. I’m struggling why paving 0.6 mile of ROAD isn’t agreeable to the Trails Advisory Committee? If I was on the TAC, I would be embarrassed to even be considering the Towne Road Levee a trail. It’s a road, it feels like a road, and is used as a road. Adding the trail component was to appease the trail users and that’s not good enough? Then forget the trail and just make it a road as originally planned.
Bingo. Walked on the road yesterday and it's like a super highway compared to some of our roads. The marked trail section is plenty wide.
Thank you, Jeff. You answered my question in the best way - TRUTHFULLY. Your dedication to the truth will lead you and all of Clallam County to victory. If the Eberle family continues to promote their wedding venue idea, do their neighbors understand the amount of noise pollution, litter, trash, speeding, DUIs, disturbing the peace (for animals, fowl, birds, and humans), and unsafe trail conditions this will cause for Towne Road? The DLTA group must read your post to understand what lies are skulking behind the facade. An organized charitable no-profit can be as deceitful as any government. You're the best, Jeff!!
All I had to do was read your well-written comment from the last article and see your reasonable questions, to know what CCWD should answer next. Thanks for being so engaged.
I know people that share a property boundary with the Eberles. While the parties were hosted, the music would run loud and late. A time or two, party goers trespassed onto private property and got a little....ahem...amorous(?) in the bushes. Litter and clothing articles were not uncommon after one of those. I'm wondering how they'd even manage party-going traffic on the levee road-as-a-trail with all those hundreds of walkers without running someone over.
(Rumor has it that at least one of the Eberles reads this substack. Mwhahahahaha. )
Excellently written and extremely informative! These same individuals play with truth and transparency on Nextdoor, while attacking Jeff for telling the truth and backing it up with documents...go figure!
As we delve further into this it will be interesting to see what the IRS has to say about a not for profit corporation commercially and privately benefitting from the Towne Road closure and subsequent taxpayer funded installation of gates. Hmmmm.
It gives a bad look to everything registered as a "charitable nonprofit."
Here's where one can go to file a complaint with the state: https://www.sos.wa.gov/corporations-charities/nonprofits-charities/info-donors/file-complaint You know, in case anyone feels that a non-profit is operating in a deceptive manner.
I just did it... thank you for posting this link, A.J. Folks might need this information: Dungeness Levee Trail Advocates (DLTA)
PO Box 371
Carlsborg, WA 98324
www.savetheleveetrail.org
savetheleveetrail@gmail.com
The more complaints the better. They are reviewing mine.
I was wondering about that. I sit on several non profit boards and we must watch all of our p’s and q’s………..
Thank you Jeff (I'm not on Next Door because I don't live there but thank you for that update)... fast and loose with the truth those people are!!!!!
You're welcome, Bonnie. I'm not on Nextdoor either because, well, I got kicked off for being pesky.
I am a reviewer for my neighborhood next door - and would never have kicked you off ! Being pesky is recommended !
Bless you, Bonnie and thank you! I was a moderator and quit after 24 hours...couldn't take it!
Oh brother! Did not realize you got punished again...how long until you are back and does this mean today's edition needs to be posted on Nextdoor?
I get to rejoin general population tomorrow... Yes, please share and post or I can do it tomorrow. I always get more subscribers when you do it though :)
Done! At least you will be finished serving time for your crime and can catch up on comments tomorrow!
Thank you both... I owe you one!
No...we are eternally grateful and owe you!
a SMALL group of people who want a road, isn’t that what has been repeatedly said during the 3 minute public comment period every week over and over by Derrick Eberly? When in reality it’s a tiny group of people who want to steal 20+Million $$$$$$$ of county tax dollars for a private driveway! YES YES YES. The advocacy circus show orchestrates with the tiny car that circles the ring several times, stops and 50 clowns get out, all the while the master ring leader coordinates the show, look over here, look over there look at how great the trail is and how bad a road is. The ring leader is the master, his position of influence directs the audience where to look, what to watch, and he can direct the whole show, SO HE MAY THINK? When the ring leader advocates to communicate outside the legal show this is what will happen.
This is a perfect visual descripton of the circus that's underway.
https://www.wedding-spot.com/venue/14176/Eberle-Barn/
Just a NOTE for all -
THIS IS A VENUE........Ms Eberle stated it is not.......good grief girl!!!!
An illegal taking of public property. They took a public street. They called law enforcement on opposition, they went after free speech, They asked the world what should we do with Towne Road, and they blocked video from public testimony. Entitlement and power is sexy don't ya think.
I went back to the beginning of this blog and read all the entries, and all the comments, since all of it was before I started following. What a read! I recommend every one do ir. Then I went to the beginning and read just your comments. I was seriously taken aback because I have been following National “takings” and land and water fights that sound so much like what you describe, and what the blog has been exposing. Many of the actions that have happened here concerning a certain Commissioner and a
public road have been happening all over. So much that it looks like a known blueprint or instructions on how to get what you want without public input or knowledge. I would advise anyone who is interested in what else may be found in with this road debacle read your comments. I wish I could say it better. Thank you for what you have contributed kon this blog.
Sorry folks but “phooey” to NextDoor... communist platform... life is messy and there are too many cogs in the wheel already! Badge of Honor 🏅🎖for you Jeff... for being TRANSPARENT....
Maybe we need to form PACBS-- People Against Communist Bullshit. Or, more positively PCS People for Common Sense.
First, if the Tribe wants a nature walk, WTF did they destroy the existing trail????? Have them restore the trail for the walkers.
Secondly, perhaps a class action lawsuit is in order if Ozias reneges on the road completion in a timely manner. I will contribute $1K to the effort if it becomes reality. Taxpayer money paid for the road, and no Socialists/Communists will stop it. The audacity of those people who object to both a road AND TRAIL, as planned amazes me. They likely came from the California that they ruined, and now want to do the same here. They should move to Seattle and be among like-minded folks.
Also did some research and there is a direct trail linking the U.N. + Agenda 21 + ICLEI + NODC+ Mark Ozias. Someone is lying. We are being manipulated from the top down making it look like it is grass roots. Clever.
That is how it is done. Every. Single. Time. This is happening country wide. I am looking at a law group that are able to address multiple issues. The hardest part will be picking one thing; there are so many violations of the law in this.
This would make sense considering all the UK flags and people who showed up right at the beginning of that war. Also I know of a ton of corruption in the community but you are right on point with this one
The Towne Road Levee was designed and built to accomodate a 30' ROADWAY. We could have saved 1/2 the money if it were only designed for a trail as a MUCH smaller structure could contain the river when necessary. DLTA needs to cough up about $11,000,000 to compensate the taxpayers who paid for a ROAD if they want it trail only. We WILL sue and if there is ANY justice left in the land, we WILL prevail!
Perhaps we need to think seriously about organizing.
We could start a sign up sheet at the Town Hall on Thursday at Sequim Prairie Grange. I think it's 6-8 P.M.🤓
We will know by tomorrow if that is necessary... I hope they vote to approve the bids going out.
This needs to end out of court and it needs to end soon. The Eberlie's and the Open Space mafia needs to accept that its a public road already paid for once and then paid for again to fix. They got selfish for the extra convenience of a closed road. I get it. They called the entire Hall of Open space League in on this for selfish reasons to keep it their very own elite "public" haven.. They showed who it is that is most likely among the Commissioners the one to meet anyone in the alley under the gas lamp. All in all I think they are all professionals and held up professionally during all of this. I myself could have been called for a technical foul or two. I think we have a wrong professional and two brave professionals.
The issue should have been resolved weeks ago. The Eberlie's should have spent their capital on making sure they had county ordinances to get permits to close of the streets for event like they do in Sequim. They could close the road temporarily on week ends and summer weeks they could hold gatherings during the weekdays. Instead, they went big and swung for the fences. They did us a favor. They exposed the week links in our government and brought good people together. We are behind on the issues. We need to solve Towne Road. I say this after filing two motions alleging the tribes broke the Point no Point treaty of 1855.
Thanks John. I also hope that legal action can be avoided. It is difficult to deal with obsessed persons in normal senses. I would like to see Ozias be recalled or resign for his subterfuge and attempted theft of public property. It is criminal activity now in plain sight. The arrogance and hubris of these folks is surreal. (Ozias+DTA, etc.)
The political sign needs to be reported to Ozias so he can immediately call for an investigation by the sheriff and his department. Reporting the illegal posting of the “Political” sign to Ozias can be done by writing to mark.ozias@clallamcountywa.gov and cc mike.french@clallamcountywa.gov and randy.johnson@clallamcountywa.gov. Please take action to protect our taxpayer money.
If I were going to pick someone to lead my merry band of thieves, it wouldn't be the Eberles. They are cementing their reputation of mis-truths (because it's not PC to say "lies" anymore), wild exaggerations and more.
On the one hand, this is anticlimactic. No surprise, really, except that a few of those people must not really know who they signed on with. Maybe the Eberles used their $2000 from the county to start the non-profit.
Reality will strike hard if the road is kept closed and then the lawsuits come flying. The ones against the county concern me and should concern all the taxpayers because the road will ultimately be opened and we'll also have to pay for the defense of the lawsuits that shouldn't have happened in the first place.
I walked the road yesterday. I think there is some clear confusion in the DLTA cult on what is getting paved. It's not the entire levee. It's a very small portion of the levee. People need to get educated.
I contemplated putting my garage sale signs up on the tax payer funded fence and gate.
If the road stays closed, the reality is:
There will be lawsuits filed against the county.
There will still be traffic on the levee portion of Towne Road. The Tribe, farm vehicles and personal vehicles of the privileged few. It will be worse than no road at all. Trailwalkers, bikers, runners need to be made aware of this. They will not be protected from this traffic that will be allowed to use the road anytime they want.
The Eberles get tax-funded private gates for their "inconvenience" that they created.
Emergency vehicles have to take an alternate route to reach people north of the closure OR be delayed by gates.
The traffic on Sequim-Dungeness and the feeder roads (such as Ward, Lotzgesell, etc) will continue to see a marked up tick just as they have since the closure of Towne Road. While people south of the blockage that live on or off Towne Road don't mind shifting the traffic to their neighbors, there are those of us that experience that increased traffic daily and really resent that.
I feel bad for the creamery business because I used to go there and do the nice drive, the loop. Now it’s one way in one way out, no nice drive anymore since the closure. I’d tell county tax payers to send their increased insurance bills to the great and powerful OZ and let him make up the difference and hold Commissioners responsible for any fatalities due to longer emergency response times. Lack of oxygen for longer periods of time can result in permanent brain damage. Would the great and powerful OZ want that for his loved ones?
Agree. I have not been to the creamery since the road closed. It adds an extra 5-10 minutes to get there and while I love their ice cream, I just can't justify it without having the nice drive there and back. Interestingly, I drive by The Game Farm, using Ward Road, and they still have a sign up at the entrance to one of their lanes ... "No Creamery Access. Use Towne Road."
I have not been to Nash's Farm Stand either. I won't spend another dime there after seeing how they have behaved in all this. The comment by the Mrs. that implied that because they no longer have a market on that side of Sequim-Dungeness, they don't need the road open and can freely support the closure, really did it for me. I know I'm not alone in that regard.
I agree Mr. Johnson. That and the way they have been treating their long time customers and workers. Plus that confrontation the Mrs. posted on ND and never bothered to reply to a very sincere apology from a long time neighbor and friend. I used to think I knew her. I was a customer for many years. I now know I am not important to her whatsoever.
I have a lot of friends who don’t live anywhere near here who would sign a petition to finish the road if I asked them to. I’m guessing many of you do, too. Should we start a petition to expose waste, fraud, and abuse of public infrastructure tax money? Will it carry weight with the elected officials? The DLTA petition has about a thousand signatures. I’m pretty sure we could exceed that if we wanted.
After the resolution in December where 3 commissioners committed to finishing the road this year, I thought we were done. Then Ozias started to back out of the promise, but it was still 2 against one, so we were in a good position. When Mike French told DLTA that if 50 of them came to a commissioner meeting that may get him to reconsider his promise, I was surprised. Randy Johnson seems committed to reopening the road this year due to safety concerns and rising costs. So, I guess that makes French a swing vote now and we need to find out what will determine his vote if it isn't the resolution he committed to. Is it 51 people coming to the courthouse? Is it one more signature than DLTA has? This has become a popularity contest, but we haven't been told the rules. Lynne, if you want to contact French and see what will persuade him to honor the resolution, 634 subscribers might be up for whatever he requests.